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Why Is It So Hard to Hold Police Accountable?

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4.8585 Ratings

🗓️ 4 June 2020

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Police are supposed to “protect and serve” the community, but that’s a far cry from what modern-day policing often looks like in our country. The recent murders of Breonna Taylor, Tony McDade, George Floyd, and others highlight the need for drastic systemic change, yet again. ACLU Policing Policy Advisor Paige Fernandez walks us through the history of our problematic policing systems and explains both why it's so hard to hold police accountable and how the ACLU is addressing this moving forward.

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0:00.0

From the ACLU, I'm Molly Kaplan, Director of Multimedia for the ACLU and your host for this episode.

0:13.5

Police are supposed to protect and serve the community, but that's a far cry from what modern day policing often looks like in our country.

0:20.7

The recent murders of Brianna Taylor, Tony McDade, George Floyd, and the but that's a far cry from what modern-day policing often looks like in our country.

0:28.9

The recent murders of Brianna Taylor, Tony McDade, George Floyd, and others highlight the need for drastic systemic change yet again.

0:32.6

The ACLU is committed to advocating and litigating for that change.

0:37.4

Following the lead of the movement for Black Lives, we are calling for a new vision of policing,

0:41.3

one where police have a smaller footprint and presence in American life.

0:46.2

Joining me to discuss and break it all down is our policing policy advisor, Paige Fernandez.

0:51.7

But first, one of our producers, Rebecca McCrae, attended a protest on Monday night in Brooklyn, New York, and spoke with three protesters about why they are calling for change.

0:55.5

No peace. No justice. No peace. No justice. No peace. And why are you out here today? The reason I'm out here is because I have two college degrees, but yet I'm still treated like I'm nothing. When I drive home from

1:13.2

open school night with a shirt and tie on and the cop comes behind me in their car, I get nervous.

1:18.1

That's embedded in me. I'm tired of hearing there are a few rotten apples. There's not a few

1:22.4

rotten apples. The tree is rotten. The tree is rotten from the roots up. It's rotten. I know there are good cops out there.

1:30.9

However, after this is said and done, what's going to change? What's really going to change?

1:36.4

Do you know what it's like to come home from spring break in the car and getting pulled over by cops with their guns to your face?

1:43.1

I'm pretty sure you don't. Do you know what it's like playing basketball as a middle school kid, 11, 10 years old, where cops come up to the gate and say, hey, guys, we need two or three more you guys. We'll pay you $5 to getting a lineup. You know it's like to have a nice car getting pulled over for no reason? And then when I question why I'm getting pulled over,

2:01.5

they said I didn't have my seatbelt on. But I put my seatbelt on. The number one thing that a black

2:07.0

man knows to do when he starts a car is to put your seatbelt on so that police officers don't message.

2:12.1

Don't shoot. Don't shoot. I have an 11 year old

2:17.8

son and an 18 year old daughter

2:19.8

And I've been grown up in this neighborhood

2:22.4

Since I was born

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