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Why is Germany dragging its feet on sending tanks to Ukraine?

Amanpour

CNN

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4.11K Ratings

🗓️ 23 January 2023

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

An unseemly split over tanks risks the ironclad unity the NATO alliance has demonstrated in support of Ukraine. Among some allies – led by Britain, Poland, Finland, and the Baltic nations – there is a sense of striking while the iron is hot, before Russia regroups for an expected spring offensive. At the heart of the drama is the German Leopard 2 tank, which is top of Ukraine’s wish list. But the German chancellor is dragging his feet. More than a dozen countries own those tanks, including Poland, which says it will send its Leopards to Ukraine. But it would need Berlin’s sign-off. U.S. National Security Council spokesperson John Kirby joins the show from the White House to discuss what military support Ukraine is getting – and what more the alliance can deliver.  Also on today's show: Marcin Przydacz, Foreign Policy Adviser to Polish president; Delia Ephron, author, Left on Tenth.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello everyone and welcome to Amunpur. Here's what's coming up.

0:09.0

Kieve needs tanks as Western Allies Bicker.

0:13.0

I get the details from John Kirby on the US National Security Council.

0:17.0

Then we get the view from Europe.

0:19.0

An advisor to the Polish president explains why Warsaw we will send in their German-made tanks

0:25.0

with or without Berlin's consent.

0:27.0

Plus, the volunteers stepping in to help civilians trap near the front lines,

0:32.0

a report from Eastern Ukraine also ahead.

0:35.4

I'm embarrassed to say I actually did think I had fallen into my own romantic comedy.

0:40.3

Finding Love after loss, writer Delia Ephron talks to Walter Iskson about her new book left on 10th. Welcome to the program everyone. I'm Christina Manpur in London.

1:07.0

An unseemly split over tanks risks the ironclad unity, the NATO alliance is demonstrated in support of Ukraine.

1:15.8

Among some allies led by Britain, Poland, Finland and the Baltic nations,

1:20.7

there's a sense of striking while the iron is hot before Russia regroupes for an expected

1:26.3

spring offensive.

1:27.9

And at the heart of the drama is this tank, the German leopard tube, the nimble, flexible leopard with all-round protection requiring low maintenance is top of Ukraine's wish list,

1:39.0

but the German Chancellor is dragging his feet.

1:42.0

More than a dozen countries own those tanks,

1:45.0

like Poland, which says it will send them

1:48.0

to Ukraine, throwing down the gauntlet to Berlin.

1:52.0

We all... the gauntlet to Berlin. We will apply for such consent but this is a

1:57.4

secondary topic even if we did not get this consent in the end as part of a small coalition. If the Germans were not in

2:05.4

this coalition, we will still hand over our tanks together with others to Ukraine.

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