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The Take

Why is Donald Trump fixated on South Africa?

The Take

Al Jazeera

Daily News, News, News Commentary, Politics

4.7748 Ratings

🗓️ 20 May 2025

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

The administration of US President Donald Trump has granted refugee status to 49 white Afrikaners, echoing a debunked conspiracy theory about “white genocide” in South Africa. The move comes after Trump cut aid to the nation and threatened to boycott meetings with its government. What’s behind Trump’s fixation on South Africa?

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Episode credits:

This episode was produced by Haleema Shah and Chloe K. Li, with Phillip Lanos, Khaled Soltan, Spencer Cline, Marcos Bartolome, and our guest host, Manuel Rápalo. It was edited by Alexandra Locke. 

Our sound designer is Alex Roldan. Our video editor is Hisham Abu Salah. Alexandra Locke is the Take’s executive producer. Ney Alvarez is Al Jazeera’s head of audio. 

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0:00.0

Al Jazeera Podcasts.

0:07.0

Today, no refugees allowed in the United States, unless you're a white South African?

0:18.0

To suddenly hear that a country like the United States is offering us refugee status was

0:25.6

a really big deal.

0:26.6

And I was so excited, I felt so relieved.

0:30.6

How white South African farmers became Trump's model minority.

0:35.6

I'm Manuel Rapalo, and this is the take.

0:46.1

Since the Trump administration's return to power,

0:49.1

we've heard promises to pull back from global entanglements and focus on domestic priorities.

0:55.2

But South Africa has become an unexpected flashpoint in U.S. policy, specifically it's

1:00.8

white minority.

1:02.3

It's a genocide that's taking place that you people don't want to write about, but it's a

1:06.5

terrible thing that's taking place.

1:08.0

And farmers are being killed. They happen to be white.

1:13.6

Trump claims a genocide is happening against whites. That's a debunked conspiracy theory.

1:19.6

But the right-wing fixation on the plight of white South Africans culminated in 59 of them,

1:26.6

arriving in the United States as refugees this month.

1:30.3

Welcome to the United States of America.

1:32.3

Thank you, sir.

1:33.3

It is such an honor for us to receive you here today.

1:37.3

This is the land of the free.

1:39.3

Today, we're joined by a journalist who has already been following this from Cape Town.

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