Why Is Bubonic Plague Still With Us?
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🗓️ 9 December 2025
⏱️ 12 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, I'm Flor Lichten, and you're listening to Science Friday. |
| 0:07.4 | Have you heard this news? |
| 0:08.8 | New Mexico, man, sick with the plague. |
| 0:11.1 | A resident in South Lake Tahoe, California has tested positive for the plague. |
| 0:16.8 | The case of plague has been confirmed in a person in Colorado. |
| 0:20.2 | What is going on with these cases of plague? |
| 0:23.7 | I think of bubonic plague as an illness that lives in my history book, not in my feed. |
| 0:29.5 | You know, it appears in that Middle Ages Europe chapter. |
| 0:32.7 | 25 million people were killed by this horrible bacterial disease carried by fleas. |
| 0:36.7 | And then we turn the page. |
| 0:38.8 | But in reality, that isn't the end of plague's story. The disease is still around and still making |
| 0:44.2 | people sick. So why are we seeing it pop up and how should we be thinking about it? Here to tell us more is |
| 0:50.1 | Dr. Viveka Vadevalu, Plague researcher and Director of the Allen School for Global Health |
| 0:55.0 | at Washington State University. Vivica, welcome to Science Friday. Thanks, Flora. It's lovely to be here. |
| 1:02.3 | Okay, so, you know, I think a lot of people think of plague, bubonic plague as this historical disease that |
| 1:08.3 | has come and gone. What should we make of these cases popping up? |
| 1:13.4 | Right. So the interesting thing about the bubonic plague is that after these great pandemics that |
| 1:20.9 | killed many people in the medieval ages and during what we call the Asian plague, which was really |
| 1:27.4 | where we saw a lot of the outbreak also in the Asian area, India, China, etc. |
| 1:33.7 | in the late 1800s and early 1900s, and that sort of continued sporadically until probably the 1920s or 30s. |
| 1:42.6 | This is when we thought that was the end of plague, right? |
| 1:45.7 | But this was really a critical time when actually the organism, the bacteria that causes plague, |
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