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Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots, The Spectator's Daily Politics Podcast.

I'm Cindy Yu and I'm joined by Isabel Hardman and Katie Balls.

So this morning, the Prime Minister has some news for some of us who've been living in this pandemic.

Here's what he had to say.

But it is very, very important for everybody to understand that the reduction in these numbers in hospitalisations

and in deaths and in infections has not been achieved by the vaccination programme.

As well, what do you make of this? I thought the vaccines were meant to work.

I mean, it is a bit of a surprise given the NHS is celebrating its milestone of

vaccinating all top nine priority groups and given the modern a vaccine is being rolled out

today for Boris Johnson to this morning thank everyone involved in the vaccination rollout and then

to say, but it's lockdown that saved lives instead,

which is weird because, as we've said many times on this podcast, the sort of hope of the

Conservatives is that everyone will remember the vaccination programme overwhelmingly from this

pandemic and not everything else that the government has failed to do particularly well.

So it's strange for him to go on to lockdown, which again he has some regrets over because he didn't introduce it soon enough.

I suspect that his calculation is that people are at risk of relaxing too much because they have personally been vaccinated.

They may, if they are grandparents,

have had both of their vaccines and are thinking, right, I want to hug my grandchildren.

I want to go and do this. I want to go on holiday. I want to have people round for a party.

And he's hoping that by putting the emphasis on the importance of the lockdown

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