Why Is Arm Angle So Important to Pitcher Health?
Rates & Barrels: A show about Baseball
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4.7 • 873 Ratings
🗓️ 10 April 2025
⏱️ 53 minutes
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Summary
Eno, Trevor, and DVR discuss the surging Kyren Paris and strange feats, in the face of Jesse Chavez signing with Atlanta for the *sixth* time in his career. Plus, they look at several pitchers that have significantly altered their arm angle this season in pursuit of staying health -- including Garrett Crochet, Paul Skenes, and Cole Ragans -- MacKenzie Gore's excellent start to the 2025 campaign, and they play the third installment in this season's 'Name That Dude!' series.
Rundown
1:55 Kyren Paris' Red-Hot Start Continues
7:19 Jesse Chavez's New MLB Record
14:03 The Relationship Between Arm Angle & Health
18:40 A Look at Garrett Crochet's Changes
24:05 Paul Skenes' Adjustments
28:40 Biggest Arm Angle Changes From 2024 to 2025
41:32 Is MacKenzie Gore Making the Leap in 2025?
48:47 Name! That! Dude! (Season Series entering 4.10.25: Trevor 2, Eno 0)
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Hosts: Derek VanRiper & Eno Sarris
With: Trevor May
Producer: Brian Smith
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Rates at Beryl's. |
| 0:13.0 | It is Thursday, April 10th, Derek Van Riper, Enoceris, Trevor May, all here with you. |
| 0:19.0 | On this episode, we discuss the importance of arm angle. |
| 0:23.9 | We lucked out. |
| 0:24.9 | There are a couple studies Trevor found that actually explain some things that are happening here in the early weeks of the season. |
| 0:31.1 | So I'm very glad we didn't talk about this topic last week because that information is going to add a lot to this conversation. |
| 0:54.2 | We're going to take a look at Mackenzie Gore, who appears to be having a breakout here in 2025. His first three starts had been fantastic. We've got to name that dude coming up here in a little while. And of course, as we do each and every episode, we've got some news to get to up top. If you haven't joined our Discord already, you can be a part of that community. Just hit the link in the show description. If you're watching us on YouTube, smash the like button or just hit the like button at a force level that you're comfortable with, really. You don't have to smash it. Don't break your computer. Yeah, we're not responsible for any broken computers. Everyone always says it. Smash the like button. |
| 1:11.2 | Just click it. |
| 1:12.3 | That works too. I don't know how much people say that anymore, actually. I would be honest, Eric. It's more of a meme. Just saying. Oh, no. It's a meme now. It's a meme. I don't get out much. You know this. It's ironic. What do people say now? They just say like the stream |
| 1:09.0 | Or like to |
| 1:09.8 | What I always would have said if other people weren't saying smash. Well, good. I'm not saying smash. You're just perpetually behind, man. It's okay. It's, you know, it's fine. I'm always behind. You're doing your best. That's the sad part. I am doing my best, and it's very, very sad output. Let's talk about Kyrin Paris for a moment, though, before we could go. And he's unstoppable. Two homer game against the Ray's Angel still lost. But, hey, look, if the playoffs started today, and they don't, the Angels would be in the playoffs. So, you know, they have that going for them on April 10th, which is nice. But Kyran Paris, we talked about him briefly early in the week, a visit to Teacher Man throughout the offseason, and maybe has changed his swing for the better. And I just feel like I'm left out, you know. I didn't get in on the frenzy over the weekend. I didn't pick up Kyron Paris anywhere and we're getting a lot of questions on Discord. |
| 2:20.9 | Is this real? Is he a breakout guy that's going to stick and have an everyday role and obviously not continue with the pace he's on right now, but end up being one of those pop-up surprise players? |
| 2:32.1 | Or is it more in the line of Kyle Lewis? |
| 2:34.7 | I think that was the other comp that came up in Discord, a guy that comes up, gets red-hot, |
| 2:38.3 | and then just never quite plays at the same level that he did other than that, |
| 2:42.9 | one really nice stretch. |
| 2:45.0 | Well, we had a nice piece of input from our resident hitting coach in Germany, Dominic, which pointed out that |
| 2:53.7 | teacher man who Kyron Paris went to, he's a famous hitting coach that has worked with the |
| 2:59.1 | Aaron Judge. He is a terror to the internet and has been banned from almost every hitting forum |
| 3:06.0 | and place imaginable, but he thinks he has |
| 3:10.0 | this great idea that everyone should listen to. It really works with certain players, as Dominic |
| 3:15.0 | pointed out, and he thinks that it really works with players that hit too many ground balls |
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