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Intelligent Design the Future

Why Intelligent Design Best Explains the Fossil Record Data

Intelligent Design the Future

Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture

Science, Philosophy, Astronomy, Society & Culture, Life Sciences

4993 Ratings

🗓️ 11 July 2023

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

The fossil record reveals sudden explosions of new life forms followed by long periods of stasis. Is this evidence to be expected from a gradual Darwinian model? On this episode of ID The Future, host Eric Anderson talks with Casey Luskin on location at this year’s Conference on Engineering and Living Systems (CELS). Luskin discusses three different models of the fossil record - the gradual descent model, the punctuated equilibrium model, and the explosion model. He explains why gradual Darwinian models are built on a lack of data and cannot adequately explain the patterns revealed in the record. He also shows that the sudden appearance of complex organisms and long periods of non-change are exactly what we would expect to find from a design perspective. "These organisms...are designed to change within limits," says Luskin, "and that's why we see stasis." Indeed, the fossil record is consistent with the engineering-based theory of bounded adaptation, the idea that organisms are deeply designed, purposeful, and capable of adapting within their operating parameters. It's an intriguing new way to look at the history of life on earth. Says Luskin, "The only way you're going to be able to generate all the information needed to yield an organism that's alive and functional all at once is through an intelligent cause." Don't miss this intriguing conversation! Casey Luskin holds a PhD in Geology from the University of Johannesburg, where he specialized in paleomagnetism and the early plate tectonic history of South Africa. He serves as Associate Director of Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture. Want to dive deeper into the fascinating explosions of plant and animal life in the geologic record? Luskin recommends reading a chapter by Stephen C. Meyer and Gunter Bechly (Chapter 10) on the topic, in Theistic Evolution: A Scientific, Philosophical, and Theological Critique. Available here: https://www.discovery.org/b/theistic-evolution/

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0:00.0

I. D. the Future, a podcast about evolution and intelligent design.

0:18.3

Welcome to I. Future. I'm Eric Anderson and we're here live in Denton, Texas for the conference on engineering and living systems. I'm sitting down today with Casey Luskin, Associate Director of Discovery Institute Center for Science and Culture.

0:27.0

Casey is a lawyer and also has a PhD in geology, so an interesting mix and I know you've done biology studies as well Casey

0:34.2

Casey was a presenter at our conference and we'd like to talk to him a little bit about his work today

0:40.1

Welcome Casey great to be on with you Eric.

0:43.0

So Casey you talked a little bit about three models in the fossil record.

0:48.1

What are those three models that you're sharing?

0:50.1

Yeah, so my talk was titled Patterns from the History of Life, Abrupt, Appearance, and Stasis.

0:55.4

And the first part of the talk basically looked at various models of how we understand and interpret the fossil record.

1:02.0

And of course, the first model is the most famous one

1:04.8

that everybody has seen in textbooks or PBS Nova documentaries.

1:08.6

It's the gradual Darwinian model,

1:11.3

descent with modification model of the fossil record where basically you have

1:15.8

organisms very gradually changing over time from one form into another species morph very slowly you have sort of these these species that will

1:25.1

very very slowly over long periods of time through many intermediate stages

1:29.2

many transitional forms and phases will morph from one body plan into another.

1:36.0

And of course if this model is true then it's supposed to leave lots of transitional forms because the change happens slowly,

1:43.4

plenty of time to fossilize many of these intermediate stages

1:47.1

between various types of organisms

1:49.6

and various morphological states.

1:51.9

So that's the classical Darwinian view of the fossil record.

1:55.1

But of course as the story goes, Darwin predicted that we should find these

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