Hey, Darien Woods here. It is a big day in the Planet Money world today.

Our book is finally out and you can buy it in stores. It's called Planet Money, a guide to the

economic forces that shape your life. And if you do go by, let us know what you think and

take a pick of you reading it and tag us. Let's see if we can make this a bestseller.

NPR. If you spend even a little bit of time on social media, you know how addictive it can be. You wake up in the morning

and you scroll through your feed. You check it again on your way to work and during work.

You scroll when you're eating lunch, when you're laying down to bed, even when you're on the

toilet. Well, speak for yourself. But no, I imagine a lot of our listeners are even scrolling

right now. Yeah. And if this is you, don't feel too embarrassed because this is what these apps were

designed for to keep users engaged.

And they do it so well that it's become a liability for them.

That's right.

A couple of weeks ago, a jury in Los Angeles found meta and Google negligent for designing apps like Instagram and YouTube

to be addictive and harmful to children's mental health. The same week, a jury in Santa Fe found

meta is harming children's mental health and safety. Now, Google and Meta have said they

disagree with the verdicts and will appeal, but there's already a lot of talk about how these

verdicts could reshape social media as we know it. This is The Indicator from Planet Money. I'm Adrian Ma.

And I'm Darien Boitz. Today on the show, we speak with Aza Raskin. He's an entrepreneur credited

with inventing the Infinite Scroll feature, common in so many social media apps.

He also testified in that New Mexico trial of meta.

After the break, Aza tells us about the changes he thinks platforms should make

to help people take their attention back.

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