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Matter of Opinion

Why Identity Politics Isn’t Working for Asian Americans

Matter of Opinion

New York Times Opinion

Society & Culture, Ross Douthat, News, New York Times, Journalism

4.27.2K Ratings

🗓️ 17 November 2021

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Asian Americans are the fastest-growing racial group in the United States, and understanding their representation in culture, politics and society is getting increasingly complex. In the New York City mayoral election this month, the Republican candidate, Curtis Sliwa, won 44 percent of the vote in precincts where more than half of the residents are Asian, a rate higher than for any other racial group tracked. This came as a surprise, given the popular belief that Asian Americans, particularly the younger generation, are largely liberal. One of our guests on this week’s show argues that the conversation surrounding the Asian American identity is often limited to upwardly mobile immigrants with careers in highly skilled sectors like tech and medicine. But a term as vague as “Asian American” includes everyone from an Indian lawyer to a Hmong refugee, and with that comes the complication of identifying with a phrase that is meant to define such a wide range of experiences. Jane Coaston speaks to two Asian Americans who look at the term in different ways: the writer Jay Caspian Kang, who thinks it ignores class differences and so is meaningless, and his podcast co-host E. Tammy Kim, who believes there’s value in building political power by organizing around the identity and even across these class differences. Mentioned in this episode: “Time to Say Goodbye,” a podcast hosted by Jay Caspian Kang, E. Tammy Kim and Andy Liu on Asia, Asian America and life during the coronavirus pandemic Kang’s new book, “The Loneliest Americans” Kim’s essay “Asian America,” in The London Review of Books “An Asian American Poet on Refusing to Take Up ‘Apologetic Space,’” on “Sway,” a New York Times Opinion podcast

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0:00.0

Today on the argument, what does it mean to be Asian American?

0:08.8

If you walked up to somebody on the street and you said, what is an Asian American outstanding

0:12.5

there, they would point to me.

0:13.8

You know, or if I was standing there with some of my friends who are South Asian, I'd

0:16.8

say, which one of us is Asian?

0:18.3

I bet 90% of them would point to me.

0:20.8

Right now, that doesn't mean that that's right or wrong.

0:23.3

It's just to prove that the label is just so amorphous and so contextualized in that.

0:28.5

Now, it ultimately ends up being almost meaningless after all.

0:32.6

This is Jake S. Bean Kang.

0:34.4

You might know him for his work in the New York Times magazine, or his excellent Times

0:38.2

Opinion newsletter.

0:39.7

He writes about a wide range of topics, education, city policy, gambling, affirmative action,

0:45.3

but one thing he's been focused on for the last decade is his own identity.

0:49.5

Specifically, what it means to be Asian American.

0:53.3

I say that with air quotes, because to Jay, that identity is mostly meaningless.

0:57.9

Like, who falls under that banner and who doesn't?

1:01.0

Is it too broad a label trying to fit too many people underneath?

1:05.3

He's written a whole book about how he feels about the term.

1:08.2

It's called the Loneliest Americans.

1:10.6

And since it's publication, it's definitely pissed some people off.

1:14.2

Which, by the way, Jay's never been afraid to do.

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