So what I try to do, as I've said quite a few times since this all began, is to try and elevate voices which won't be heard elsewhere and should be.

And someone who I've been reading a lot,

and as have many of you actually,

which will talk about, is an Israeli academic

named Lee Mordecai, who is a Israeli academic named Lee Mordecai who is a history academic and what he's

done is he's used his position as a citizen to speak out.

And two words which I think you're, well maybe you're not bored of me hearing as

listeners is moral clarity which I think have been the two for me, most important words since this all began.

And Lee has, I think, shown more clarity in ways which I think

are very profound, very moving and extremely courageous

for reasons I think we'll discuss.

And just before I just bring Lee in as he sits here, waiting for me to stop talking.

He wrote a viral threat. He went huge numbers of view you shared it, commented on it. I can see here got 1.9 million views.

Including a document where he writes, you know, is entitled bearing witness to the Israel-Gazah War,

which begins, I. Lee Mordecai, a historian and Israeli citizen, bear witness in this document as events were unfolding to the whole situation in the Gaza Strip. Lee, hello how are you doing? Hey Owen, great

great to be on. Thanks for having me on. It's an honor. No it's

honors or mine honestly. I just want to start because you call this bearing

witness and I'm just interested what why is it so important to speak out I mean you almost

it's really interesting reading through the document you've in a very long

thorough detailed document which I can see your academic training really comes in

it's very evidenced about what's happening in Gaza and why you consider this to be a genocide which will come on to you.

And it almost reads partly as it almost comes across as a missive to the future it almost

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