So, John, I think that great comedians are great social observers.

Obviously, they're funny, but I think their geniuses and how they can observe something we all see.

But then they say it in a way, and that's what makes us laugh. And I think you're one of the hottest comedians on the planet right now. Congrats on the tonight show. Thank you, brother. Oh, not attractiveness. No, no, that'd be a little weird. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. A weird way to start. You are a handsome man. I have no problem acknowledging that at all. Early on, what did draw you to comedy? I don't feel like we had a choice.

We were compelled to, even in, during COVID, me and a lot of guys here in town, Nate, and we would,

that we've spoken candidly about, dude, we, and nobody could do it. Everything, all the clubs were closed, all the theaters were closed,

all.

And we were just like, they were like, hey, Nate was doing, like, drive-ins.

And then I was doing, like, shows in, like, parking lots.

Nobody was getting any money.

Nobody was getting paid.

Nobody was getting any kind of social.

There was no benefit except for we were observing all these things about culture and this so, such a strange time and we were like,

we would like to contribute to this.

No, like I think everybody, or like, we want to be,

I don't know Taylor Swift personally, but like I imagine she liked to play the guitar

and like to write songs and all this other stuff is a byproduct of her being good at the thing.

She would never, like kids now want to be famous.

That's not a goal.

That's right.

It's not a, because that is insatiable, by the way.

You're never going to get to, like, even if we have innumerable obstacles in our business every day. I mean, every day there's something, like we just lost our podcast Instagram account, 180,000.

It's just gone.

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