Why Human Progress Is Not Inevitable - ft. Carl Frey
Capitalisn't
University of Chicago Podcast Network
4.5 • 584 Ratings
🗓️ 12 March 2026
⏱️ 42 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | I'm not of the view that every technology is good. But unfortunately, many times it's hard to know beforehand. |
| 0:07.6 | It's hard to know before somebody has invested in it and it's been adopted in the marketplace. |
| 0:18.7 | I'm Bethany McLean. |
| 0:20.5 | Did you ever have a moment of doubt about capitalism and whether greed's a good idea? |
| 0:25.7 | And I'm Luigi Zengalis. |
| 0:27.1 | We have socialism for the very rich, rugged individualism for the poor. |
| 0:32.6 | And this is Capital Isn't, a podcast about what is working in capitalism. |
| 0:36.6 | First of all, tell me, is there some society you know that doesn't run on greed? |
| 0:41.0 | And most importantly, what isn't? |
| 0:43.0 | We ought to do better by the people that get left behind. |
| 0:46.0 | I don't think we shouldn't kill the capital system in the process. |
| 0:49.6 | It can be so easy to take progress for granted. |
| 0:52.6 | Air conditioning, refrigerators, life-saving drugs, |
| 0:56.0 | the Internet, whoever forget what a life would be without technological advancement. |
| 1:01.1 | How much harder our lives could be? |
| 1:03.5 | And I guess how much better our lives might be in the future if progress continues. |
| 1:08.0 | This is, after all, one of the promises of capitalism. Progress unending, sort of. |
| 1:13.6 | But is progress inevitable? Is it intrinsic to capitalists or is something that can slow down or even end? And is that end coming sooner than we think? |
| 1:25.6 | So one person who thinks we might be is Carl Benedict Frey, the author of the new book, |
| 1:31.3 | How Progress Ends, Technology, Innovation, and the Fate of Nations. |
| 1:35.6 | Wow, that's a big title. |
| 1:36.9 | Carl's core message is deeply unsettling. |
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