Hi, it's Amper's Book of the Day. I'm Andrew Limbaugh. Today's interview is with author

Louise Penny and Hillary Clinton. They just wrote a thriller together called State of Terror.

And it's interesting because there's all this political baggage hiding in the subtext, right?

The book reflects on some topical issues and the interview

mentions the post-Trump Republican Party and, you know, even Hillary Clinton's favorite president.

But it's most fun to hear them talking about writing, a Page Turner thriller, no less,

the type of book that gets turned into a movie that airs on cable at 5 p.m.

As Louise Penny puts it, while the book has some pointed messages... People aren't supposed to choke down this book and then feel morally superior at the end of it.

Here they are talking with NPR's Scott.

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Simon.

A president picks a former rival for Secretary of State, who happens to be a woman,

a series of terrorist attacks, intrigue, rivalries, faraway places, unlikely allies,

the Russian mob, a Pakistani arms dealer,

brilliant young foreign service officers, and the most vivid love scenes ever co-authored by a former Secretary of State.

Unless there's something that's been overlooked in the papers of Martin Van Buren,

State of Terror is a new novel written by Louise Penny, the bestselling author,

and a newcomer to mystery writing named Hillary Rodham Clinton.

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