Why High-Performing Men Struggle in Marriage featuring Marc Hildebrand
The Dad Edge Podcast
Larry Hagner
4.8 • 1.6K Ratings
🗓️ 25 February 2026
⏱️ 33 minutes
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Summary
In this powerful behind-the-scenes conversation, Marc and I sit down to unpack Eric's story — a successful entrepreneur, father of five, and longtime member of the Dad Edge Business Boardroom. Eric opens up about the strained season in his marriage, the subtle warning signs he ignored, and the moment his wife Katie made it clear that change needed to happen.
This episode is about more than marriage repair. It's about ownership. It's about learning skills most men were never taught — emotional validation, empathy, leadership at home — and realizing that waiting for crisis only makes the climb steeper. If you're a busy business owner who feels scattered, distracted, or "almost disconnected" at home, this conversation will hit close to home.
Timeline Summary:
[0:00] The distraction trap of entrepreneurship and busyness
[4:48] Eric shares the difficult season in his marriage before joining
[7:18] The early warning signs and Katie's wake-up call
[9:06] Why waiting for crisis puts men into panic mode
[13:48] Learning emotional validation and empathy as new skills
[16:11] Skills vs. identity change — upgrading your operating system
[19:17] The public signs that Eric's marriage was turning around
[22:31] Why you must change first instead of waiting for your wife to
[26:47] Eric's biggest advice: find a community of strong men
[29:32] The power of psychological safety and brotherhood
Five Key Takeaways
- The drift from good to terrible is gradual — then sudden. Don't wait for the cliff.
- Panic is not the best place to rebuild a marriage. Address the rumblings early.
- Emotional validation and empathy are skills — not personality traits.
- Identity change happens through environment and repetition.
- If you want your marriage to change, you must change first.
Links & Resources:
- Dad Edge Alliance Preview Call: https://thedadedge.com/preview
- Dad Edge Business Boardroom (Mastermind): https://thedadedge.com/mastermind
- Episode Show Notes & Resources: https://thedadedge.com/1444
Closing Remark:
If you're feeling that quiet tension at home — the subtle disconnect, the busyness, the emotional distance — don't wait for an ultimatum to force your hand.
You don't have to do this alone.
If this episode resonated with you, please rate, review, follow, and share the podcast. Every share helps us reach more men who are ready to lead at home the way they lead in business.
From my heart to yours — go out and live legendary.
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Dad Edge podcast. The Dad Edge movement creates leaders of men, leaders of families, and leaders of communities. We will not only impact this generation of fathers, but the next generation as well. The kids we are raising will have better chances and odds stacked in their favor because of the amazing example |
| 0:21.2 | that their fathers emulated for them. We are here to change the world. We are here to change |
| 0:27.6 | relationships. We are here to positively disrupt this generation of fathers so no man goes to their |
| 0:33.6 | grave with regret. We disrupt the drift of busyness and replace it with razor-focused intention, |
| 0:40.3 | passion, purpose, and direction. |
| 0:43.7 | We are the Dad Edge, |
| 0:45.7 | and we're here to change the game. |
| 0:47.8 | We're here to change the game. |
| 1:03.2 | I don to record. |
| 1:06.4 | I was a bit distracted, Mark. |
| 1:09.4 | So people listening to the podcast right now, |
| 1:31.9 | be like, do I have the right episode? Yes, you do. You totally have the right up. So gentlemen, what is going on? Listen, I was joking, right? I'm a little distracted, but that's kind of the theme of today's show. It's like these little things, especially as business owners, like all the shiny things, all the things we have to take care of, the emails, the texts, the notifications, the reports, the leading the teams, the leading the family, |
| 1:34.1 | the kids, the babysat. I'm out of breath, Mark. |
| 1:42.9 | It's a lot, man. It's a lot. But I can't wait to get into Eric's story today because you can control that stuff. You can. Actually, |
| 1:45.5 | I remember Jason McKenzie asked me this question. Like, how could you excel at both, right? How good the fact that you excel in business actually make you a better father and a better husband? And I remember like that question. And that's what Eric's going to share today. I can't wait. I can't either. So yeah, let's set the stage. I mean, |
| 2:01.1 | we're obviously joking around, but one of the first things we're going to open this whole thing up. And if you guys listened to our podcast last Wednesday, we're going to be doing a few of these. You know, we're going to be bringing in some of our members, some of our clients. And they're going to be speaking just their experience. and we're going to be just breaking some things apart. |
| 2:18.4 | We're going to be dissecting some experience and we're going to be just breaking some things apart. |
| 2:18.4 | We're going to be dissecting some things and talking about it. |
| 2:21.9 | And what we think will happen absolutely is that you guys listening to the show, |
| 2:26.6 | number one, you will obviously find, I think today's show very relatable, |
| 2:30.3 | especially if you're one of those really, really busy business owners that's like, |
| 3:24.5 | man, like the revenues are showing me that things are pretty good. The paper on paper everything is doing pretty good. But man, like my energy feels a bit tanked. Like I feel discombobulated in the home front. I know I'm like leaving things on the table with my marriage. you know and then the thing we keep saying he's like oh well just give, just give me another six months. Or if I can get through this thing or do this thing, then my time will free up. And that just, quite frankly, it never happens. And the people that we love the most, and quite frankly, the people we're doing this for, right? They're the people that are unfortunately paying the price. And guess what? We're also paying the price because there's a cost of that. So today we have an incredible member that we're going to be featuring today. And we've got a recording of just some of the things he's talked about. He's been a member for the past two years. His name is Eric. He's got five kids. He's got a beautiful Rhodesian Ridgeback, a very successful business. |
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