Why "Her" Reveals How We Really Feel About AI (with Ezra Klein)

Offline with Jon Favreau

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Society & Culture, News

4.7 • 2K Ratings

🗓️ 23 May 2024

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Ezra Klein joins Offline Movie Club to discuss “Her,” the movie that more or less incited this week’s Scarlett Johansson v. OpenAI drama. Back in 2013, when ChatGPT was just a twinkle in Sam Altman’s eye, no one thought a writer falling in love with his sentient virtual assistant was a near-term scenario. But here we are! Ezra, Max and Jon debate what AIs mean for relationships, how “Her” introduced emotional stakes that are absent from AIs in real life, and why Altman definitely copies Johansson’s husky voice in the latest GPT-4o.

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0:00.0	weirdly one of the better I think depictions of this in culture is Star Wars because in
0:05.8	Star Wars there are a bunch of robots that are clearly AI's but nobody tries to
0:11.6	nobody tries to fuck C3Pio.
0:13.4	You have no idea with C3P.
0:16.4	It's C3P.
0:17.0	You're absolutely right.
0:21.0	And somebody is definitely fucking a robot somewhere in Star Wars. That's a big galaxy. Oh, Oh, I'm Max Fisher. I'm John Favro and with us today Ezra
1:09.4	as a new york times columnist hosted the ezercline show and someone who John and I have known for a long time
1:14.9	Ezra I'm so excited to have you here man. Yeah but you sound so calm about it.
1:20.3	That's like an NPR like I'm so excited.
1:23.0	You know what can I say?
1:25.0	Max is working on his podcast voice.
1:27.0	That's right I haven't worked on.
1:28.0	I've been listening to too much Ezra Klein show.
1:30.0	I feel very serene.
1:31.0	People are like, oh I listen to your show to fall asleep. I'm like, is I there?
1:35.0	Are you trying to pay me a compliment or is that an amazing bag?
1:38.0	All right, this is the offline movie club. Every episode we discuss a great movie and how it
1:41.9	reflects or shapes how we think about technology
1:44.4	and the internet this week. I know all three of us are very jazzed to talk about her, about a
1:49.3	mid-career creative who starts dating a woman in tech until she leaves him for her
1:53.3	effective altruism polycule. I was proud of that one. Now her is the 2013
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