People who subscribed to this idea that the Democrats were running a pedophile ring out of a pizzeria

Didn't most of the time except for one guy who showed up with a gun. But of all the people who subscribe to this

conspiracy theory, most of them didn't take action like you would if you were in

say a resistance movement. They posted about it on Yelp, gave the thing bad reviews on

Yelp. One guy posted a review on Yelp apparently where he said, yeah, I went in there

with my 10-year-old to get some pizza,

and I noticed they were looking at him funny.

Now think about that for a minute.

If you had anything even close to a factual belief,

or even a suspicion that there was a pedophile ring in this damn pizzeria, you would not show

up with your 10-year-old.

I'm John Favreau. I'm Max Fisher and you just heard from today's guest

Professor of Neuroscience and Philosophy and author of the new book

Religion as Make Believe Neil Van Luyen.

All right Max, I'm intrigued by the title.

What did you guys talk about?

What's this book about?

The title of the book is a little bit more provocative

than the actual underlying book.

He's saying religion in make-bel believe, not to make fun of religion, but as a kind of play on the phrase make believe, it's like why do we believe the things that we believe? And we had a really great conversation about why we are attracted to certain beliefs, why those seem like they are increasingly

unward from factual belief, and the idea that we actually have different modes in our head of thinking about factual beliefs and

symbolic beliefs like things like religion or political ideology. I have to say it

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