Why Heaven won't be perfect

Curiously Kaitlyn

Phil Vischer

Religion & Spirituality

4.9 • 865 Ratings

🗓️ 27 January 2026

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

We think the after life will be perfect in every way, but that is not the picture that Scripture paints. From Eden to new creation, Kaitlyn and Mike explore why scripture calls creation "good" instead of "perfect," why only God has perfection, and why eternal life won't be static, boring, or frozen in place. Instead, it's a future of growth, learning, and flourishing—far better than the perfection we imagine now.

0:00 - Theme Song

0:55 - Should the Word Be Used to Describe Something on Earth?

3:35 - Was Eden perfect?

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14:00 -Perfectionism

22:02 - Orienting Toward Heaven

25:28 - End Credits

Transcript

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0:00.0	Welcome to Curiously Caitlin, where we try to make theology make sense.
0:05.0	I don't know.
0:08.0	That doesn't make any sense.
0:16.0	Welcome back to another episode of Curiously Caitlin.
0:22.9	I am joined once again with producer Mike.
0:25.3	Mike, how are you?
0:26.4	I'm perfect.
0:27.5	Caitlin, I'm just doing.
0:30.5	That's a high bar, Mike.
0:32.2	Yeah, I'm just perfect.
0:33.2	You yourself are perfect.
0:35.2	I am just perfect.
0:36.5	Morally perfect.
0:37.9	Okay.
0:41.6	Now it feels like you're adding a lot to this word, Caitlin.
0:44.6	But you're doing, you're doing, I'm doing, I'm doing well.
0:45.3	Okay, good.
0:49.7	Yeah, I don't know if I would say perfect, but I'm doing pretty good. Well, I'm sure I won't regret using that word at all as we listen to today's kid question.
0:56.5	Let's hear it.
0:57.7	Should the word perfect be used as a term to describe something here on earth or only be used to talk about things in heaven?
1:04.4	For example, could I say today's weather is perfect?
1:08.2	Ooh.
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