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On the program today, producers, their prices, and the index thereof, bonds because bonds, and the double tax of race

and gender in this economy. From American public media, this is Marketplace. In Los Angeles, I'm Kyle Rizzdahl.

It is Wednesday, today, the 10th of September.

Good as always to have you along, everybody.

To include food and energy in your inflation calculation or not to include food and energy in your inflation calculation.

That is the question.

Whether it is nobler to have the headline August producer price index with food and fuel included move down at 10% or to use the core number, food and energy excluded, which moves

the monthly wholesale inflation index up 310%.

We have talked many a time, you and I, about how both food and energy are critical for producers

and consumers, but also how notoriously volatile they are.

So today, Marketplace's Elizabeth Troval makes some sense of what's happening in those consumers, but also how notoriously volatile they are.

So today, Marketplace's Elizabeth Troval makes some sense of what's happening in those noisiest of categories.

Inflation really should be looked at with and without food and energy, says economist

Aaron McLaughlin with the conference board.

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