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Welcome back.

Finally, y'all.

I'm back here on weekends with Waz Of course, I'm Big Waz, a KD Waz, you may have great.

I'm joined by a very special guest, a great friend of mine, one of the biggest beasts in

NBA media out there, period.

My man, national NBA writer for the Washington Post, Ben Gulliver was popping, bro.

Not too much, Waz, it's great to be here.

I just want to say quickly, congratulations on your rise, your success, your last couple

of years.

It's been awesome to watch your pandemic superstar.

I also wanted to just thank you for taking a break from all the kitty cat thirst traps on

Instagram to actually have a conversation about basketball with me, bro.

We're going to take the thirst traps off Mike, but thank you.

I appreciate that.

But man, I wanted to talk a little bit of Westbrook, because obviously you're locally into

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