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Ask Pastor John

Why God Wills Suffering for the Children He Loves

Ask Pastor John

Desiring God

John Piper, Unknown, 163859, Pastor, Ask, Theology, Desiring God, Religion & Spirituality/christianity, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality, Questions

4.83.8K Ratings

🗓️ 24 May 2023

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

If we’re going to rejoice in even the worst circumstances, then we need clear and strong reasons for why God wills suffering for the children he loves.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome back.

0:05.1

We've been looking at John Piper's new book recently titled, Come, or Jesus Meditations

0:10.1

on the Second Coming of Christ.

0:11.9

And we're going to return to the book next time, but we ended the episode on Monday looking

0:16.9

at how the Second Coming of Christ gives us the grace that we need to endure suffering

0:21.9

with joy.

0:22.9

That was first Peter 4, verses 12 and 13, key text.

0:27.2

It has appeared 20 times on the podcast already.

0:29.7

He's a very critical text if you want to understand Pastor John and Christian Edenism and what

0:34.4

the Bible says about suffering.

0:35.8

First Peter of chapter 4, verses 12 and 13.

0:38.4

So we're going to hit pause on our little series on the Second Coming to press into this

0:42.8

reality, suffering with joy, connecting our suffering to our joy.

0:48.8

It's a very sensitive connection.

0:50.9

And it came up in Hawaii back in 2014 with Pastor John speaking to a room full of

0:56.8

pastors and their wives, a room that included likely not aware to Pastor John, a woman,

1:02.6

a woman from Kahlui, Hawaii, who was in the room, suffering silently.

1:11.0

She shared this clip with us in her story.

1:13.9

First the clip, then her story, here's Pastor John.

1:18.0

Now, connecting joy and suffering is a risky business and I would only do it because

1:26.6

of 21 texts I wrote down here.

1:29.0

I'm going to read them all.

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