Hey, everybody. This is Heidi St. John. Thank you for joining me today. You guys are in for a real treat today because I have the one and only Ken Ham in my studio here in Southwest Washington. This is something I've been wanting to do for a long time. I've heard from you. You love it when I have Ken Ham on. It's always remote. Or you saw me a couple of weeks ago with the arc behind me. I went to visit Answers in Genesis for the Answers for Women Conference, did my podcast from there. And I love this man. He's a national treasure and a real defender of the Word of God. We're going to talk about creation today. Dip our toes into the flat earth discussion because who doesn't want to do that? And basically just see where the Lord leads the conversation.

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hate you, go to my freedom cart.com forward slash Heidi and change the way you shop. All right, you guys, you know him. And today you're going to really love him as much as I do. My friend Ken Ham, joining me in the studio. Ken, of course, is the founder of Answers in Genesis and the Creation Museum and the Ark Encounter. He's done everything but build the New Jerusalem.

And I'm going to ask him today if it's on his agenda, Ken Ham. Welcome back. Hey, it's great to be here, here in person. You made it. You made it. We're Heidi St. John's name is up in lights. This is a busy season for you. You're all over the place. and I just spent two weeks with you in lights. This is a busy season for you.

You're all over the place, and I just spent two weeks with you in Australia.

Yeah, well, you know what?

Some people retire at my age, but I've always told people... You reload.

My retirement philosophy is the same as Moses, you know?

He basically was in ministry, if you like, right up until the Lord said, okay, that's it. Yeah. Did I ever tell you, I spent a little bit of time with Kay Arthur over the years and really came to love and respect her? And one day she told me that she had a similar retirement plan. And she said, you know, I've just asked the Lord if he would take me home in the middle

of one of my talks. I thought it would be horrifying for the audience, but what a way to go. I'm just doing the thing that God made me to do. And bam, she's with the Lord. You know what? She was a staunch defender of the faith. And she loved God's word. and I met her a number of times, spent some time with her.

She was so sweet.

Yeah, extraordinary.

Yeah, I did too. of the faith and she loved God's word and I met her a number of times, spent some time with her.

She was so sweet. Yeah, extraordinary. Yeah, I did too. All right, let's jump into this.

You and I have been talking the last several times that we've seen each other, kind of about the rise

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