Why ‘fraud’ Burnham is nothing more than Starmer 2.0
The Daily T
The Telegraph
4.1 • 702 Ratings
🗓️ 19 May 2026
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Summary
Andy Burnham launched his by-election campaign video last night, and used it to attack the legacy of Margaret Thatcher and the deindustrialisation of areas like Makerfield, whilst promising to reverse the “draining away of economic, social and political power” that happened during her tenure and in the years since. On today’s Daily T podcast, Camilla and Tim criticise the Manchester mayor for attacking Thatcher rather than laying out policies of his own.
Elsewhere, Camilla and Tim also speak to Labour grandee Baron Foulkes - a minister in Tony Blair’s government - who says Keir Stamer has been a victim of the right-wing press and is doing the right thing by maintaining that he’s going nowhere.
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Highlights
- Burnham attacks Thatcher legacy despite benefitting from her policies
- Labour grandee Baron Foulkes says Starmer right to carry on
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| 0:00.0 | The Telegraph |
| 0:07.0 | Is Andy Burnham a bit of a fraud? |
| 0:13.0 | Rather than talk about his own policies, |
| 0:15.0 | he seems to just want to have a go at Margaret Thatcher. |
| 0:18.0 | It's time for the King of the North to be honest about who he really is |
| 0:21.9 | and admit he's Stama 2.0. |
| 0:24.8 | And we'll also speak to the Labour Grandee, Baron Forks, |
| 0:27.9 | a minister under Tony Blair |
| 0:29.3 | who thinks Kier Stama is right to keep digging in. |
| 0:33.0 | Welcome to The Daily Tea with me, Tim Stanley. |
| 0:35.2 | And me, Camilla Tominy. |
| 0:56.0 | Music Welcome to the Daily Tea with me Tim Stanley. And me, Camilla Tominy. In 1971, the Tory MP Ernest Marples appeared on the BBC and introduced Britain to a crazy new thing called jogging. Morning, Mr Marples. |
| 0:57.0 | Morning. |
| 0:58.0 | Now what's this about this jogging? What's it all about? |
| 1:02.0 | The idea is it's an exercise which people can take, no matter what age they are, to keep themselves fit. |
| 1:08.0 | It's a well-balanced exercise worked out by an Olympic Games coach. First class. |
| 1:12.9 | You walk 55 yards and then you jog the 55 yards. Now we're jogging and this really is |
| 1:19.0 | halfway between a walk and a run. This was an import from America, Camilla. I didn't know that |
| 1:25.2 | was going through. Was something people didn't do before the 1970s. |
| 1:29.0 | No, they just walked very quickly. |
| 1:30.6 | We were English. |
| 1:31.3 | We just walked very quickly. |
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