Why is he shifted like this?

You and I both know he was not this way, not this way.

He was a deregulatory Republican during Trump One.

Yeah.

And now he's a Maga Warrior.

And I think he's just like a political animal.

I think he sees his lucrative podcast paid for by, you know, illegal supplements in the future.

And that's going to be a great exit ramp for him.

Yeah. supplements in the future, and that's going to be a great exit ramp for him. Hi, everyone, from New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network.

This is on with Tara Swisher, and I'm Kara Swisher.

My guest today are FCC Commissioner

Anna Gomez, Jamil Jaffer, executive director of the Knight First Amendment Institute at Columbia

University, and Nilai Patel, editor-in-chief of The Verge, and host of the Dakota podcast and The Vergecast.

I gathered them for a long-awaited episode about FCC chairman Brendan Carr and his

moronic behavior and his problematic actions, and they go hand in hand, just for people don't know,

specifically how he's weaponized the formerly independent federal regulatory agency and turned it

essentially into a propaganda arm of the Trump administration.

This is not just my opinion. The stuff he has done is really egregious, and I wanted to talk about it.

Earlier this week, the Legal Accountability Center of Bipartisan watchdog filed complaints in Washington, D.C. and Maryland against Carr,

and asked for an investigation stating that he, quote, violated his ethical

obligations as a licensed attorney. In response, Carr, ever moronically told status newses, Oliver Darcy,

quote, I'm going to keep doing my job, whatever activist groups like this think, notwithstanding,

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