Welcome to Current Affairs. My name is Nathan Robinson and I am here in Cardiffairs World

Headquarters, first with my colleague Alex Scopec. Hello, Alex. And it is our great pleasure

to be joined in person here in New Orleans, Louisiana, by a gentleman who has been a guest on the current affairs program before,

but who comes today to discuss his new book, Enshitification, why everything suddenly got worse

and what to do about it, which just came out.

It's already in its fourth printing.

Corey Doctoro is the author of over 30 books.

You can find him on his website, pluralistic.net.

Cory Doctoro, welcome to New Orleans.

Thank you, Nathan.

Thanks for coming to talk to us.

It's 100% my pleasure.

That was a great

interview very it made me feel really excited about me so what we do is we bring the energy good at

uh i like you've been you've been drinking your chicory coffee here in new orleans and oh i should

say you were kind enough to bring us each, the symbol of, the official poop

emoji.

The symbol of inshittification is the poop emoji.

And you're kind of enough to bring us.

Carefully altered by McMillan's designers to not infringe on Apple's copyrights, which I think was overkill.

Have they copyrighted?

Well, they've copyrighted their emoji, right? But I think it's overkill. I think there's like an implied and probably even if you look at the Yula explicit license to use emojis, you know, if you buy the phone, you can use the emoji. So I think they're fine. But they did go ahead and they give them angry eyebrows, which I like. Oh, I didn't notice.

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