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Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

Why Endorse Two Candidates?

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

New York Times Opinion

New York Times, Journalism, News, Society & Culture, Ross Douthat

4.07.2K Ratings

🗓️ 23 January 2020

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Which 2020 Democratic contender would be the best nominee to take on President Trump? The New York Times editorial board gave its endorsement to two candidates -- Elizabeth Warren and Amy Klobuchar -- and the columnists disagree with it. Katie Kingsbury, who leads the editorial board and hosts "The Choice" podcast about the endorsement, joins the columnists to make the case for the dual endorsement. Then, David pitches his colleagues on an unorthodox thought experiment meant to help deflate America’s partisan tensions. For background reading on this episode, visit nytimes.com/theargument.

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0:00.0

I'm Michelle Goldberg.

0:02.0

I'm Ross Douthod.

0:03.0

I'm David Lee and Hart.

0:04.0

And this is the argument.

0:07.0

This week, the New York Times editorial board has announced its presidential endorsement.

0:16.0

We welcome the editor who oversaw the process to try to convince us that the board was right to choose not one, but two candidates.

0:25.0

If there's any regret that I have is leaving the impression that I couldn't make up my mind.

0:34.0

And then a recommendation.

0:37.0

It actually gave me a kind of deep appreciation for our yawning partisan divide.

0:46.0

The Times editorial board usually endorses an establishment candidate for the democratic nomination.

0:58.0

It's endorsed Bill Clinton and Al Gore and John Kerry.

1:01.0

In 2008, the board chose Hillary Clinton over Barack Obama.

1:05.0

And in 2016, it chose Hillary again, this time over Bernie Sanders.

1:10.0

This year, the board has made the process more public than ever.

1:14.0

The candidate interviews were conducted on the record and published.

1:18.0

Some of the deliberations were televised.

1:21.0

In the end, the board chose two different candidates, a progressive Elizabeth Warren and a moderate Amy Klobuchar.

1:29.0

That decision definitely got people talking.

1:32.0

We're lucky that Katie Kingsbury, who oversaw the process, will be joining us today to talk about all of that.

1:38.0

Katie is the Times's deputy editorial page editor.

1:42.0

Before she comes in, I should make clear that Ross, Michelle and I are not on the editorial board.

1:47.0

None of the op-ed columnists are.

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