Why Elliott Abrams wants Trump to topple Maduro
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🗓️ 2 December 2025
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Then, Elliott Abrams, a former special representative for Venezuela in the first Trump administration, talks about why he thinks regime change in Venezuela is “the only way forward.”
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| 0:00.0 | Support for here and now anytime comes from MathWorks, creator of MATLAB and Simulink software for technical computing and model-based design. |
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| 0:17.5 | WBUR Podcasts, Boston. |
| 0:22.7 | Secretary Huggseth stands behind Admiral Bradley 100%. |
| 0:26.7 | Admiral Bradley made the right call, and unlike the previous administration, we have our warfighters back at this department. |
| 0:34.3 | The Secretary of Defense says he did not order a double-tap strike on a boat |
| 0:39.3 | off the coast of Venezuela, but he supports the killings anyway. |
| 0:53.5 | It's Tuesday, December 2nd, and this is here and now anytime from NPR and WBOR. |
| 0:58.8 | I'm Chris Bentley. |
| 1:03.4 | Today on the show, longtime conservative presidential advisor, Elliot Abrams, pushed for U.S. military intervention across Latin America |
| 1:12.3 | in the 80s and the Middle East in the 2000s. Now, he says, regime change is the only way forward |
| 1:19.9 | in Venezuela. Hitting little boats in the Caribbean won't do it. I think more is going to be needed, |
| 1:27.0 | and the question for President Trump |
| 1:28.6 | is, how far is he willing to go? Also, Dr. Mehmet Oz says the government is working out a solution |
| 1:35.6 | to address the rising cost of health insurance with a deadline to extend Affordable Care Act tax |
| 1:41.1 | credits just a few weeks away. Before we get to that, though, |
| 1:45.7 | the Pentagon held a press conference today, doubling down on yesterday's denial from the White |
| 1:50.6 | House, which claimed Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth did not order the secondary strike on an |
| 1:56.4 | alleged drug boat in the Caribbean. The attack in question happened on September 2nd at the order of the |
| 2:02.7 | Defense Secretary. The follow-up strike killed two remaining survivors. Both the White House and |
| 2:09.5 | the Pentagon say Navy Admiral Frank Bradley is responsible for the Second Order, which is under |
| 2:15.4 | heavy scrutiny as a potential war crime. For more, we called up |
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