Dorisanaee is having quite the year. She has pivoted from her work as a music talent manager,

where she made a splash in the industry with acts like Kuko in Ladonia, to launching herself

as a singer and songwriter. She's also the protagonist of a new, much-buzzed-about documentary,

Miha, that examines what it looks like to take big risks, and how those risks are even more

complicated when your family is mixed status. Doris and I talk about what it required to make

this huge leap into

the next phase of her artistry, how she resisted the pull towards security, and what it means to

approach the work with a heart of service.

Doris, thank you so much for being here.

Thank you so much for having me.

I want to talk about how you started in music, which is a little bit different than what you're doing now. I mean, you seem like you knew that this was the industry you wanted to be a part of, but you didn't enter as an artist.

You entered as a manager, and it's my understanding that that's because those opportunities

were really coming to you and then you were excelling at those opportunities.

What were those opportunities that were coming your way?

Yeah, I mean, where I really, really started with music, if we want to go way back,

it was like, since birth, you know, I was born into a family of musicians, and I was raised with

Thios and Thias, I were worship leaders, so I was, like, raised singing in the church since I was a baby.

And it wasn't until college that I went and studied, like, musical theater,

and then I went and figured out that wasn't really it for me.

And then I studied communications.

And then I got a job on campus booking shows for my university.

And that's when I started meeting agents and managers and indie bands that I was into

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