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The Assignment with Audie Cornish

Why Don’t Third Parties Work?

The Assignment with Audie Cornish

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News Commentary, News, Politics

4.6844 Ratings

🗓️ 8 April 2024

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Last week, “No Labels,” the centrist group seeking to field a “unity ticket” for the presidential election, announced that despite raising $70 million and securing ballot access in key states, they had failed to secure a candidate and would drop their effort for the 2024 cycle. This news elicited sighs of relief all over Washington, including at Third Way, a center-left think tank. Kate deGruyter is communications director at Third Way, and she argues that any third-party candidate in this race disproportionately hurts Joe Biden by muddying the otherwise clear choice between Biden and former president Donald Trump.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

After reportedly raising some $70 million and muscling their way onto the ballots in more than a dozen states,

0:08.7

the centrist group no labels admitted they had no candidate. Their goal was to put forward a unity ticket for the 2024 election.

0:16.0

That isn't happening, at least for now. In the meantime, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. named a tech billionaire to his ticket, Nicole Shanahan.

0:23.9

So where does the voter looking for an alternative to Donald Trump and Joe Biden go now?

0:29.4

This is the assignment.

0:31.2

I'm Audie Cornish, and here with me is Kate de Groider.

0:34.4

She worked for Democrats on Capitol Hill before moving over to Third Way, and they call

0:38.5

themselves a radical centrist think tank. Kate, welcome to the assignment. Thanks for having me.

0:45.4

No labels has said, we can't find anyone to run on our ticket. Now, I'm going to put this the bluntest

0:51.7

way possible, which is that I feel like every person I have talked to in Washington, who, I mean, it's a bipartisan system, a two-party system, they hated no labels.

1:02.6

There was very much a vibe of like, oh, God, these dudes.

1:07.0

And people seem very unimpressed by them and what they were doing.

1:12.1

I think No Labels was one of the last to recognize something that was really obvious to most political handicappers who looked at their plan.

1:22.1

And that's that there was no chance of them winning.

1:24.8

And a lot of the voters that they were expecting would be part of their

1:28.1

coalition are folks that had previously voted for Joe Biden. And so if they were to succeed,

1:33.4

they would be pulling key voters out of the anti-Trump coalition. And with margins as tight as

1:39.9

we expect them to be this November, that could be enough to hand Donald Trump the White House.

1:45.1

So how come people don't feel the same way about Robert Kennedy Jr., right?

1:50.4

Like, his campaign isn't going away.

1:53.0

That's true. He's lagging a bit behind no labels in some of his ballot access work.

1:57.5

It is a very complicated and expensive process to get on 50 state ballots as a

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