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Hello and welcome to the Saturday edition of Coffee House Shops,

the Spectators' Daily Politics Podcast.

I'm Isabelle Hardman and I'm joined by Fraser Nelson,

James Forsyth and Matthew Paris.

And today we're talking about the influence that Margaret Fatcher is having on the contest.

Matthew, this is something you've written about, so why do you think Fatcher is looming so large

over the modern-day Conservative Party race?

Well, the Fatcher that I remember, I was her letter writer,

answering letters from the general public for two years,

the last two years of her leadership of the opposition,

before she became Prime Minister.

The Fatcher that I remember has been largely forgotten,

the Fatcher whom you describe as dominating Conservative politics now

is a sort of pantomime version of herself towards which she did totter

towards the end of her life.

It's a sort of grand done sweeping denunciations of this, that or the other.

She was not like that in opposition and she was not actually like that in her first years

in government. She was a rather cautious person whose instincts were pretty right-wing

but who made sure that she surrounded herself by doubters.

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