Hello and welcome back to Sociology 101.

Today we're going to be replying to a friend.

I consider Greg Kokel a friend.

He's been at our unapologetic conference in Texas.

Eric Hernandez had him as one of our keynote speakers.

And I sat next to him at a Chile's, and Frank Turrick and I discussed, if you will,

the doctrines of Calvinism, and with Greg, both of us pushing him to think differently about his

views. And he did so very cordially, by the way. He's a very loving man and the very kind

man and generous to give us his time on that day to talk through these things. And I was just

sent a podcast that was released. Let's see, you can see it here. It was released

back on the 9th of this month just a few days ago. And Sean Spencer actually sent in a question.

Sean is, I think a regular listener. I've seen him comment on our pages before. And he's asking

the question that you can see there at the bottom of that screen.

If you can see that small of a screen, I'll make it bigger. If total depravity is true in the

sense of people being hardened and not able to choose God without being changed prior to conversion,

then why would the devil need to blind anyone, as it says in 2nd Corinthians 4? And so that's the question

being posed for this discussion today. And you're about to hear Greg answer or at least attempt

to answer that question. It's a, it's a debate as to whether he actually answers it or not.

In fact, that's what Sean asked me in the email. Did Greg

actually answer this question? And he did, but he didn't. You'll see what I mean when you hear

it for yourself. But before we jump in to this, I do want to remind you, as always, if you're

looking for a higher theological education, consider Trinity Seminary.

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