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You see a letter from a Roman governor that kind of references these two enslaved women as leaders in the church.

And you know, this governor is not kind toward these women, but the fact that he mentions them as people who are leading, like they're the people that you want to like get to if you're going to mess up the church, right? Like, so even though they were women and they were enslaved and they did not have a lot of

power or respect within the broader Roman world or culture within the church they were respected as

leaders and looked up to.

Hello and welcome to Unbelievable show that engages in what we hope are meaningful

conversations about faith, life and belief.

I'm your host Andy Kind and today we're embarking on a new and important journey,

an ongoing series where we'll dive into the topic of women in the

church women in ministry and how women are portrayed in the Bible. Well joining me

today is Liz Coolidge Jenkins Liz is a writer, preacher, former college campus minister based in the

Seattle area and a theological seminary alumni. She writes extensively on the intersections of faith, feminism and social justice.

This has also penned a book entitled Nice Churchy Patriarchy, reclaiming women's humanity from

evangelicalism.

In this occasional unbelievable series we'll be discussing differing views

on women's roles within the church and biblical interpretations of women's stories.

But rather than our usual debate format,

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