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🗓️ 15 May 2024
⏱️ 50 minutes
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I spent years of my life studying celebrity images and what makes them meaningful to us. A celebrity’s actions or words can make or deepen our connection to them — or they can really piss us off. But why? Is it just a classic case of dashed expectations? What makes, oh, Taylor Swift hanging out with Matty Healy so disappointing? For this episode, I asked celebrity feelings expert Margaret H. Willison to come answer your questions about the broad contours of celebrity-directed anger — and work through some very specific examples. I promise: you’ll leave this episode with a more textured understanding of your own celebrity feelings.
Note: This episode was taped before the conversation re: the Met Ball and celebrity silence on Gaza; you can read more about it here.
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0:00.0 | What do Bridgerton, Star Wars, the term goblin mode, and the Barbie movie all have in common? |
0:07.5 | That's right, they're part of the discourse, the constant, constant online discourse. |
0:14.2 | They're also all episode topics from my new favorite show, Material Girls, a pop culture podcast that uses critical theory to understand |
0:21.9 | the zeitgeist. |
0:23.4 | If you like Culture Study, you have to check out this bi-weekly show hosted by two queer |
0:27.4 | Canadian academics who love to get to the bottom of why certain things become popular and |
0:32.8 | what that popularity tells us about society. |
0:35.5 | Each episode, they tackle a piece of pop culture, whether that's a book, |
0:38.9 | movie, meme, or song, and ask, why this and why now? And guess what? I was on a recent |
0:46.1 | episode about athleisure, and let me tell you, these hosts, they do their research. We talked |
0:52.8 | about post-World War II manufacturing, second wave |
0:55.7 | feminism, the neoliberal collapse of work and leisure, the rise of Chip Wilson's Lulu Lemon |
1:00.8 | empire, and so much more. Be sure to check out Material Girls wherever you get your podcasts |
1:06.1 | or head to materialgirlspod.com to learn more. That's materialgirlspod.com. |
1:14.7 | So this past spring, I designed and led a course called Taylor Swift and Confessional |
1:19.6 | Writing. And it was like three to four weeks into this that it became apparent that Taylor Swift |
1:26.3 | was seriously dating Maddie Healy. |
1:28.6 | And I was gobsmacked by the degree of grief the people in the class felt. |
1:36.8 | It was like, can I even be a fan of her anymore? And I had only heard of Maddie Healy |
1:43.2 | occasionally, like, I've listened to a couple |
1:46.2 | songs by the 1975 like that was where I was in my Maddie Healy knowledge as well yeah like everyone |
1:52.2 | who's been to a brewery on one of the coasts yes you know I immediately started looking into it |
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