Why do so many Russians support the war?
Ukrainecast
BBC
4.7 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 7 February 2023
⏱️ 31 minutes
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Summary
Unpicking history and propaganda to understand ordinary Russians and their attitude to the war with Russia expert Dr Jade McGlynn.
James Waterhouse in Kyiv brings us up to date on what’s happening in the East of Ukraine around Bakhmut and President Zelensky’s corruption clampdown and Frank Gardner appraises the progress of Russia’s so-called Spring offensive.
Today’s episode is presented by Victoria Derbyshire and Vitaliy Shevchenko. The producers were Arsenii Sokolov, Clare Williamson and Josh Jenkins. The technical producer was Philip Bull. The series producer is Fiona Leach. The assistant editor is Alison Gee and the editor is Sam Bonham. Email Ukrainecast@bbc.co.uk with your questions and comments. You can also send us a message or voice note via WhatsApp, Signal or Telegram to +44 330 1239480
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts. |
| 0:04.6 | Hello, it's 349 days since Russia began its invasion of Ukraine. |
| 0:09.7 | The Soviet Union is the only country in the world who has the right to fight against the Soviet Union. |
| 0:17.7 | The Soviet Union is the only country in the world who has the right to fight against the Soviet Union. |
| 0:24.2 | That is the noise inside an SU-24 fighter bomber. |
| 0:31.4 | And you can just about hear the voice of Yavgeny Pragorshin, the founder of the notoriously |
| 0:36.4 | brutal Wagner group of Russian mercenaries who are fighting in Ukraine. |
| 0:40.6 | He is at the cockpit and he is laying down a challenge, isn't he, Vitaly? |
| 0:45.5 | Yes, he's basically challenging the Vladimir Zelensky of Ukraine to a duel in the skies. |
| 0:52.4 | He says, I'm just sitting in this plane. |
| 0:54.8 | I've just bombed Bachmut and I'm taking you to the skies tomorrow again. |
| 1:01.1 | If you like, let's fight it out in the skies. |
| 1:03.8 | If you win, we'll withdraw from Bachmut. |
| 1:06.4 | If we win, we're going to advance to the city of Nipro. |
| 1:10.0 | And this is so much like Pragorshin, so much of what he does. |
| 1:13.2 | It's for show. |
| 1:14.4 | It's all about him. |
| 1:16.0 | It's all about him and it's also straight out of the middle ages. |
| 1:19.3 | The sole idea of two men fighting it out to decide the fate of whole cities. |
| 1:24.5 | But he knows it's never going to happen. |
| 1:27.8 | Coming up in this episode of the podcast, we are going to talk to our friends, |
| 1:31.2 | James Waterhouse, who's back in Kiev, |
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