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The Rest Is Classified

Why Do Russian Spies Interfere in Global Politics?

The Rest Is Classified

Goalhanger

History

4.42K Ratings

🗓️ 23 April 2026

⏱️ 56 minutes

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What does a Russian interference campaign look like? What did Russian spies get up to in Hungary recently? And are Chinese spies the next threat to international politics? Listen as David and Gordon are joined by novelist, screenwriter and journalist Tom Bradby, for this special bonus episode to discuss Russian interference in global politics and the murky world where politics and espionage intersect. ------------------- Stream Secret Service now on ITVX. Visit https://www.itv.com/watch/secret-service/10a3104 ------------------- Sign-up for our free newsletter where producer Becki takes you behind the scenes of the show: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://mailchi.mp/goalhanger.com/tric-free-newsletter-sign⁠-up⁠⁠⁠⁠ ------------------- Join the Declassified Club to go deeper into the world of espionage with exclusive Q&As, interviews with top intelligence insiders, regular livestreams, ad-free listening, early access to episodes and live show tickets, and weekly deep dives into original spy stories. Members also get curated reading lists, special book discounts, prize draws, and access to our private chat community. Just go to ⁠⁠therestisclassified.com⁠ or join on Apple Podcasts. ------------------- Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠therestisclassified@goalhanger.com⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@restisclassified⁠ Social Producer: Emma Jackson Account Manager: Emma Densley Assistant Producer: Alfie Rowe Producer: Becki Hills Head of History: Dom Johnson Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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For exclusive interviews, bonus episodes, ad-free listening, early access to series,

0:09.0

first look at live show tickets, a weekly newsletter, and discounted books,

0:13.1

join the Declassified Club at the Rest is Classified.com.

0:17.3

This episode is brought to you by ITV.

0:20.0

Now, David, in intelligence work, the real failures rarely begin out in the field.

0:24.6

They begin closer to power, where access, dulls, suspicion, and questions stop being asked.

0:31.6

That's where systems fail, not at the edges, but at the center.

0:34.6

And that is the fault line at the heart of Secret Service, a new drama on ITV.

0:40.2

Jemma Ardardin plays a senior MI6 officer working on the Russia desk, uncovering evidence

0:45.3

that a high-ranking UK politician may in fact be a Russian asset.

0:50.3

And what begins in Malta moves quickly into Whitehall, where influence matters, reputations

0:56.1

provide protection and trust can be badly misplaced.

1:00.8

It's a fictional story, but it recognises a familiar pattern, how easily the line between

1:06.1

public duty and private allegiance can blur.

1:09.6

Also starring Rafe Spall, it's based on the best-selling

1:12.7

novel by ITV News attends Tom Bradby, who were delighted to have joining us on today's episode.

1:19.3

It comes back to one uncomfortable idea, the enemy's closer than you think.

1:24.8

Secret Service starts Monday the 27th of April on ITV1 and ITVX.

1:33.7

We're welcome to this special extra episode of the rest is classified

1:42.3

in which we are going to have a deep look at the very

1:47.6

murky and very interesting world of Russian interference in politics. Now, listeners will

1:54.9

doubtless remember, Gordon, that we did a series on this earlier in the year where we took a

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