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Why do Latinos join ICE?

Code Switch

NPR

Society & Culture

4.6 β€’ 14.9K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 20 May 2026

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Latinos make up at least 50% of all Customs and Border Patrol agents and 20% of Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents β€” which has a lot of critics asking, why? We talk to Geraldo Cadava, professor of Latino Studies at Northwestern and contributor to the Atlantic, to break down some of the reasons Latinos join ICE, and he tells us, there are many people who believe in the mission of immigration enforcement.

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0:00.0

Hey everyone, you're listening to Code Switch. I'm B.A. Parker.

0:04.8

And I'm Gene Demby. So, Parker, you're about to hear a clip from a video that sounds like a run-in with the police.

0:12.4

But it's not from a real actual arrest.

0:21.2

I mean, it definitely sounds like one.

0:23.0

So what is it?

0:24.4

It comes from this documentary called At the Ready, and it's from a mock law enforcement

0:28.6

raid in El Paso, Texas.

0:32.1

You're trespassing property, all right?

0:33.3

We need you to place away from you.

0:34.7

You need to back up.

0:35.7

I already feel threatened.

0:37.0

You're hearing that girl's voice, and she is role-playing as an uncooperative member of the public. We need to conduct an actual work. So she's holding up her smartphone and recording the boy arguing with her, who is role-playing as an immigration officer. I mean, A-for-A-for-A-for-ord all around. He's got that cop cadence they use when

0:55.5

they're trying to get folks to comply down pat. Right, right. And he's getting a little flustered,

1:00.3

you know what I'm saying? But, you know, it's practice. That's what this whole exercise is for.

1:05.0

Practice for what exactly? So it's part of the Border Patrol Explorers program at Horizon High School, which is about 10 miles from the U.S.-Mexico border.

1:14.6

And they've got a competition coming up.

1:16.2

The more that we keep getting closer to competitions, the more I feel like we're getting farther away from being prepared for it.

1:23.5

What?

1:23.8

Like, they're getting ready for regionals or something?

1:26.2

Yeah, basically.

1:27.3

I mean, this club kind of feels like any extracurricular activity at school.

1:30.8

You know, drill team, marching band, basketball, whatever.

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