Hello and welcome to Little Gold Men, the podcast that reminds you every week that award season really is a year-round event. I'm vanity fairs film critic Richard Lawson filling in for Mike Hogan, our digital director who's out today,

who has been filling in for Katie Rich, our deputy editor who's been out since. our

digital director who's out today who has been filling in for Katie Rich our deputy editor who's been out since June

But I am joined with Joanna Robinson our senior writer from the Bay Area.

Hello.

Hi, so we're gonna try to do this with just the two of us, which is kind of crazy.

Well, Mike will come in later because we do have an interview with Derek Soon-France who is the

director of The Light Between Oceans, which is a movie that is coming out this week,

that you, Joanna and Mike did. Was that a good conversation? is a very

very movie that is coming out this week on that you join and mike did was that a good convo it was great

Derek is a very unusual director so we had a lot of fun stories about his

process well I wish I'd been there to kind of fan girl over the place between the Pines,

which is a movie I love.

Or a place beyond the Pines?

What is that movie called?

Beyond, Beyond the Pines.

Too many propositions.

Like between oceans.

I never know where the articles was to go.

Yeah.

I wonder what his next title is going to be like 20 words long.

I'm, I can't wait like some like

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