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Our American Stories

Why Die Hard Became a Modern Christmas Classic

Our American Stories

iHeartPodcasts

Documentary, Society & Culture

4.6817 Ratings

🗓️ 17 December 2025

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

On this episode of Our American Stories, every winter, the same question makes its rounds: Is Die Hard a Christmas movie? It premiered in the heat of July, packed with explosions instead of sleigh bells, but something strange happened once audiences got hold of it. The film began drifting toward December as if it had been invited all along. Stephen Follows walks us through that slow migration, pulling together the data, the patterns, and the odd cultural habits that turned a barefooted cop into holiday comfort viewing.

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.6

Guaranteed Human.

0:19.4

And we continue with our American stories.

0:22.6

We all have our favorite movies to cuddle up with at Christmas time from It's a Wonderful

0:26.6

Life, a Miracle on 34th Street.

0:29.5

But for many people, die hard.

0:31.3

There's one such film that makes the festive playlist.

0:34.5

But is it actually a Christmas movie?

0:37.3

Here to settle this question once and for

0:39.1

all is Stephen Follows. Stephen is an established data researcher in the film industry and wrote

0:45.2

the widely circulated answer to this hotly debated question on his website, stephenfollows.com.

0:52.1

Here's Stephen with the story of how he came up with a definitive

0:56.4

answer. Hi, my name is Stephen follows and I am a film data analyst. Every week I do a new

1:04.0

bit of research into the film industry and sometimes it's sort of very crunchy and other times it's

1:09.9

kind of lighter and fun and you know we've

1:13.0

tested different types of popcorn in different theatre chains and discovered who's got the same

1:18.6

supplier and you know all sorts of fun interesting strange things and so a few years ago I was

1:24.8

talking to some students and I was trying to get them to engage with the idea of what a movie is.

1:31.1

And in doing so, I stumbled upon an argument that I did not expect to be quite as visceral as it turned out to be.

1:41.4

I asked them whether they thought Die hard was a Christmas movie or not.

1:50.8

That's it. That's the question. That was the simple question that I asked them. And I thought

1:55.1

it would be a quick entry point. And honestly, it took the entire day because there was about 30 students and they all

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