Hello and welcome back to the Americano Show, where we talk about power, politics and prejudices in American life.

Every week we will talk to at least one or two or possibly three or four American experts, international

experts about American affairs. And you can also catch us on Spectator TV on YouTube as often

as you like. Please keep listening and watching. Today we are going to be talking about what else Donald Trump's aerial strikes on Iran.

He toed and froed with the idea for the last few days.

And although it looked very much as though he was moving towards the military option,

there was some doubt about it on Thursday night when Donald Trump declared that he would

make a decision within two weeks.

But it seems that this was a faint of some sorts because these strikes happened late

on Saturday night.

I'm delighted to be joined by Jacob Harbrun, who is editor of the national

interest, who has been writing a lot about this. Jacob, were you surprised after the Thursday

reaction that the strike happened on Saturday? No, I was not, because I predicted I didn't interview with Lix Press in Paris.

And I thought everything was a, the incentive structure was aligned for Trump to carry out

the strikes because he thought that the Israelis were doing well.

He wanted in on the action.

And Trump does want to go down in history as a great president.

And he can be very bold.

And so this was exactly the kind of move that Trump likes to make.

I mean, he's talked about annexing Greenland,

about taking over Canada. If he can go down as the one president that quashed the Iranian

threat, where his predecessors, George W. Bush, Barack Obama, Joe Biden, they all flinched.

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