Why Did Todd Gabler Give Everything to Police and Get Nothing Back in the Kouri Richins Case?
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Tony Brueski
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🗓️ 29 May 2026
⏱️ 58 minutes
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Summary
Before the arrest. Before the trial. Before the conviction. Before the life sentence. There was one man pulling the threads that law enforcement hadn't found — and he wasn't a cop.
Todd Gabler was a career defense investigator brought in for a civil matter. What he uncovered over the next year — through phone records, GPS tracking, nearly 50 interviews, and a days-long search of the Richins home — became the evidentiary backbone of the prosecution's case against Kouri Richins. He identified the connection between Kouri and the woman prosecutors say sourced the fentanyl. He fed evidence to a stalled Sheriff's Office. He documented everything with body cameras and turned over two hard drives to the county attorney. And when the defense came at him on cross-examination, he didn't budge.
In this complete interview, Gabler takes Tony Brueski through every phase of the investigation — what he thought going in, what the evidence showed him, what the police missed, what the family endured, and what the case did to a man who'd never sat on the prosecution's side of a courtroom until this one put him there.
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| 0:00.0 | This is Hidden Killers with Tony Brewski. Here now, Tony Brewski. |
| 0:06.1 | Todd Gabbler has been a PI for 34 years. Over 100 homicide cases, every single one for the defense. |
| 0:12.5 | He never sat on the prosecution side of a courtroom until Cory Richens case. |
| 0:18.3 | A month after Eric Richens died, Gavler got a call about a civil matter. |
| 0:22.9 | What he found turned into something the sheriff's office hadn't cracked on their own yet at that |
| 0:29.5 | point in time. And it turned out to be the case that you've been following, I've been following |
| 0:34.5 | the Corey Richens trial. And all that is the big ball of wrong, that is Corey |
| 0:42.1 | Richens. Todd is with us today to have a discussion, to break down all of this from the case |
| 0:51.1 | itself to just how it's affected him as a human being, being around that level |
| 0:58.6 | of chaos to the point that he was. Todd, thank you for joining us. I really appreciate you reaching |
| 1:04.1 | out to me the other day. Totally by surprise, I get a text to me. I'm like, oh, he's the witness that was |
| 1:10.5 | great, the PI who we loved in that case. And I a text to me. I'm like, oh, he's the witness that was great, the PI who we loved in |
| 1:12.9 | that case. And I was going to say, how did you get my number? And I'm like, oh, he's a PI. |
| 1:19.8 | Well, yes, that's a blessing and a curse. I've got everybody's number. Not hard, not hard, really, |
| 1:25.4 | quite honestly. But Todd, I want to just kind of start here before we get into everything. |
| 1:30.2 | You were brought in by the Richens family when they started to realize, you know, there's some things that feel kind of off here. |
| 1:38.4 | Just take us back to that place. |
| 1:40.7 | What were those initial conversations about? |
| 1:43.3 | What were they like? |
| 1:45.4 | What were you brought in to do? |
| 1:50.9 | And then we'll kind of slowly, slowly wade into the pool of wrong that is Corey Richens. |
| 1:58.4 | So as I testified at the trial, I was brought in as an investigator for the estate. |
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