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slash voxpod this is recode media with peter kofka and since you're listening to this podcast you know

that today

Rupert Murdoch, age 92, announced he is formally stepping away from his media empire in November.

What does it really mean? And what happens next? I've got a great guest to discuss that with

Brian Stelter, formerly of CNN, New York Times before that. Brian is also a Murdoch specialist. He's written one book about part of the Murdoch Empire. That's hoax. He's got another one coming out called Network of Lies this fall. So he's the perfect person to discuss this. Is it a torch passing, Brian? Is this what it seems or is it less than it seems? I think this is more than what it seems. I think there's

a mystery at the core of the story that we don't quite know yet, right? There's more to learn about

the reason for the timing of this announcement, because this has been happening in slow motion for

at least several years. Again, he's 92. Yeah. He was going to leave one way or the other sooner than later.

Give us the slow motion part of it. The slow motion part of it is what you can see when you read

the Dominion v. Fox legal filings, which is something I've spent far too much time doing in recent months,

combing through Burdock's emails and text messages and the depositions of Rupert and his associates.

What you can see is a man who is shockingly passive, a media mogul who acts more like a bystander

than an owner of his company, a man who acts like a passenger in the car and not a driver of the car.

And you might say, well, he was just saying that to get off the hook with

Dominion. He's done that in the past with the news of the world hacking story, which is not very believable at the time. And more recently, he was, of course, under oath. And he was having to give over his emails and text messages, which affirm what he said under oath, which is that, you know, he's more of a newspaper guy than a TV guy.

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