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I'm joined today by John Rick MacArthur, who is president of Harper's magazine,

and we're going to be talking about the news that Bernie Sanders has suspended his campaign.

But Rick, first, before we get started on Bernie Sanders, I want to just say, I know you're in New York

at the moment. How are things?

Is it, I mean, the news looks terrible. Presumably you're locked inside and you can't, you can see as much as we can.

Well, I go out on the street more than I'm supposed to, more than my family wants me to.

And I, and I am able to watch a little bit of city life. And in my tranquil

neighborhood, the Upper West Side, it doesn't feel quite so awful, as you might imagine,

because we have Central Park right nearby, and the streets are empty, mostly, of traffic so that you can walk down the

middle of a big avenue and not even get hit by a, you don't get hit by anybody but a desperate

bicycle messenger. So I don't mean to make light of it, but I just want you to know that it's not

as if we're in a complete,

it's not like Paris or London where a cop might stop you when you walk out on the street

and ask you what you're doing or ask you to justify your being outside. It's mostly,

it's voluntary here, and people are respecting it. The only thing they've done to really, to, you might consider, authoritarian,

is they've closed the playgrounds,

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