J.D. Vance in a stump speech mentioned Peanut the Squirrel, the squirrel story that circulated through conservative media.

If you're listening and you've never heard of this, congratulations, you lead a healthy life.

But you know, you can think about stuff like that. They were a super online campaign to begin with, just in terms of what they focused on.

And this is something that makes me throw up in my mouth a little bit.

But if you think about the most important conservative thinkers of the last 10 years,

you are probably thinking of people with usernames and not real names.

You're thinking of Bronze Age Pervert. You're thinking of

minceous mold bug.

I'm John Favro. I'm Max Fisher. And you just heard from today's guest, co-founder of the Center for

New Liberalism and writer of the phenomenal substack infinite scroll jeremiah johnson not the

mountain man to be clear not the mountain man but we've got him on in a future week right but someone

i've been wanting to have on the show for a while because i really like that substack and everybody

loves robert redford and he does the and he also does the um the worst tweets bracket it's a very

funny he's someone who is a chronicler of online and how annoying it is, which we love.

Yes, which, okay, our wheelhouse.

So last week we did a bit of an election post-mortem where we talked about the internet's

role and the outcome and all of the challenges facing the Democratic Party as we try

to communicate in this media environment.

Somehow, the interminable, who is the liberal Joe Rogan debate still raging a week later?

I'm so excited to engage in a debate that I hate so much.

Hate so much. We wanted to offer you all a conversation about communicating in this media environment that's a bit deeper.

Sure.

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