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Offline with Jon Favreau

Do Libs Need a Social Media Safe Space? Did Misinfo Hurt Kamala? How Much Should the Left Influence Democrats?

Offline with Jon Favreau

Crooked Media

Society & Culture, News

4.72K Ratings

🗓️ 24 November 2024

⏱️ 78 minutes

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Summary

Jon got piled on last week for tweeting that activist groups have pushed the Democratic Party out of supermajority territory. Waleed Shahid, a progressive strategist who’s worked for Bernie Sanders, AOC, and Justice Democrats, joins the show for an offline version of his and Jon’s online debate. Waleed explains why he thinks the blame is misplaced, and Jon weighs in on who—or what—is behind Democratic leaders losing touch with their base. But first! Trump’s new head of the Federal Communications Commission, Brendan Carr, is a Project 2025 author. What does this mean for social media, free speech, and Elon Musk’s ventures? Plus, new exit polling shows late-deciding, swing voters had wildly inaccurate beliefs about Kamala Harris’s policy positions. Is hyper-targeted misinformation a permanent part of our electoral process now?

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0:00.0

There's this tension between movements and parties, and they aren't for the same things.

0:03.6

Like, they've never been for the same things.

0:05.0

Like, abolitionists protested Lincoln.

0:07.6

Labor movement protested Roosevelt.

0:09.4

Civil Rights Movement protested LBJ.

0:11.5

Act up protested Clinton.

0:13.2

Like, this is American history.

0:14.7

It's a big country.

0:15.7

People had a lot of demands.

0:17.0

And wishing away all of civil society when Trump is about to crack down on those same activists

0:22.2

is kind of, yeah, an overly simplistic explanation, I think, and not helpful.

0:34.6

I'm John Favreau.

0:35.8

And you just heard from today's guest, longtime progressive strategist and former spokesperson for Justice Democrats, Waleed Shaheed.

0:42.7

So in the true spirit of this show, Wolle and I attempted to take an online debate offline because online debates are stupid and offline debates are better, which is a lesson I will

0:55.2

apparently never learn.

0:57.3

Learn the hard way yet again.

0:59.2

Listen.

0:59.5

And then I have a conversation like this and I'm like, I was right.

1:03.3

Me?

1:04.1

Listen to yourself next time.

1:05.4

Here's the thing.

1:06.1

Every time you learn that lesson, it produces a great podcast.

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