Welcome to Current Affairs. My name is Nathan Robinson. I'm the editor-in-chief of Current Affairs magazine.

It is our great privilege today to be joined by former Ohio State Senator Nina Turner. She's also former

member of the Cleveland City Council, also a professor of African American history,

U.S. History, Urban Studies, and Political Science, former national co-chair of the Bernie

Sanders' 2020 presidential campaign from a president of

our revolution, founder of We Are Somebody, contributor to Newsweek magazine, and currently also

serving as a spokesperson for the Up in Arms campaign, Senator Nina Turner.

Thank you so much for joining us here today on Current Affairs.

Well, Nathan, it is such a pleasure to join you and the current affairs crew.

And as you all have admired me from afar, the same with you, really enjoy your work

and the way that you bring varied voices to the four and allow your audience to hear and understand

things that ordinarily they might not necessarily be attuned to. So thank you for all the great

work that you do, you and the team.

This is the first time we're ever talking, but it's interesting because, you know, our magazine

was founded in 2016 around the time of the first Bernie Sanders campaign. And one of the first

articles that we wrote was saying that, you know, if the Democrats didn't pick Bernie

Sanders for president, if they picked Hillary Clinton, they were destined to lose to Donald Trump.

And that's, in fact, what happened. And I feel like there's a great kinship between the work

that we've done over the last 10 years and the work that you've been doing. because in a way, you know, you've been pushing this kind of, you know, simple but ignored message,

which is, you know, the Democratic Party needs to push a certain kind of, you know, of, it's

often called populist, or you might call it revolutionary,

democratic socialist, the Bernie agenda. And if they don't, they're going to continue to slide

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