Why Constitutions Matter
TALKING POLITICS
Catherine Carr
4.7 • 2.5K Ratings
🗓️ 3 June 2021
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Summary
David talks to historian Linda Colley about her new global history of written constitutions: the paper documents that made and remade the modern world. From Corsica to Pitcairn, from Mexico to Japan, it's an amazing story of war and peace, violence, imagination and fear. Recorded as part of the Cambridge Literary Festival www.cambridgeliteraryfestival.com
Talking Points:
Swords need words: conquest generates a demand for writing and explanation.
- In the mid-18th century, literacy began to increase in many societies and printing presses became more widely available. There’s not much incentive to circulate political texts if you can’t have a wider audience.
- The cult of the legislator fed into the idea that iconic political texts could be useful in new and divergent ways.
By the mid-18th century, big transcontinental wars were becoming more common.
- Hybrid-warfare is expensive. Navies are hideously expensive.
- Shifts in warfare fed into constitutions because constitutions function as a kind of contract.
Constitutions can do a lot of things. They can be used to claim territory, for example.
- They can extend rights, but they can also withdraw them.
- Once something is written down, it becomes harder to change. In addition to spreading democracy, constitutions codified exclusion and marginalization.
Constitutions are sticky; even failed constitutions leave a legacy.
- People get used to having a written agreement.
- The Tunisian Constitution of 1861 only lasted until 1864 but it remains important in Tunisian political memory.
The U.S. constitution had a disproportionate impact, not just—or even primarily because of its content.
- Because the U.S. press was so developed, hundreds of printed versions emerged very quickly and traveled across the world.
- When new powers started drafting constitutions, however, they looked at many constitutions, not just the American one. Most modern constitutions are a hodge-podge.
Mentioned in this Episode:
- Linda’s new book, The Gun, the Ship, and the Pen: Warfare, Constitutions, and the Making of the Modern World
- The Meiji Constitution (Japan’s 1889 Constitution)
- The Second Sex, Simone de Beauvoir
- Also by Linda: Britons: Forging the Nation 1707-1837
Further Learning:
- The Talking Politics Guide to … the UK Constitution
- Linda on ‘Why Britain needs a written constitution’ for the FT
And as ever, recommended reading curated by our friends at the LRB can be found here: lrb.co.uk/talking
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, my name is David Runseman and this is Talking Politics. Today I'm talking to the |
| 0:12.2 | historian Linda Colley about the history of written constitutions, not just why they matter, |
| 0:17.9 | but why they created our world. Talking Politics is brought to you in partnership with the London |
| 0:27.2 | Reviewer Books, a literary magazine full of politics and a political magazine full of literature. |
| 0:33.9 | Listeners can subscribe at a special rate of just £1 an issue by using url lrb.me-talk. |
| 0:43.2 | That's lrb.me-talk. |
| 0:46.4 | I recorded this conversation with Linda Colley last week. It's part of the Cambridge Literary |
| 0:58.0 | Festival. We did it live in front of an audience but unfortunately not a live audience. |
| 1:03.2 | It was on Zoom and we're talking about Linda Colley's new book which is called The Gun, |
| 1:07.8 | The Ship and The Pen, Warfare, Constitutions and the Making of the Modern World. |
| 1:13.6 | Jill Lapour, who's appeared on Talking Politics a few times, wrote about it in the New Yorker |
| 1:19.9 | and she describes this book as incandescent paradigm shifting and she said if there was a Nobel |
| 1:27.6 | Prize for history, Linda Colley would be her nominee. It's a book that covers a lot and we cover |
| 1:34.2 | quite a lot of ground in this conversation and we travel all around the world but I started as |
| 1:39.9 | perhaps I start to often with a question about Thomas Hobbes. Linda I'm going to start as I read it |
| 1:46.9 | I found myself thinking about a book that was written a hundred years before you start so you |
| 1:51.7 | start roughly in the middle of the 18th century and I found myself thinking about a line from a book |
| 1:57.4 | written in the middle of the 17th century, Thomas Hobbes is Leverthan in which he says one of the |
| 2:02.6 | famous lines in that book in which he says, Covenants without the sword are about words. Essentially |
| 2:09.4 | meaning that treaties, contracts, constitutions need the sword, they need military force, they |
| 2:15.5 | need might behind them or they're just empty words and your book is really the opposite story |
| 2:21.6 | in lots of ways or at least it turns out on its head and it's about how not words need the sword |
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