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The Andrew Klavan Show

Why Conservatives Should Read Fiction w/Christopher J. Scalia

The Andrew Klavan Show

The Andrew Klavan Show

Society & Culture

4.8 β€’ 22.7K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 20 May 2026

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Christopher J. Scalia, author of 13 Novels Conservatives Will Love (But Probably Haven't Read), makes the case for why reading must return as a cultural norm in American society. 13 Novels Conservatives Will Love (But Probably Haven’t Read) is available here: https://a.co/d/0iPlyd3j - - - Today's Sponsor: Ethos - Protect your family with life insurance from Ethos. Get up to $3 million in coverage in as little as 10 minutes at https://ethos.com/KLAVAN. Application times may vary. Rates may vary. - - - DailyWire+: Become a Daily Wire Member and watch all of our content ad-free: https://dailywire.com/subscribe πŸ“² Download the free Daily Wire app today on iPhone, Android, Roku, Apple TV, Samsung, and more. πŸ“— Read my short story "Jesus, the Movie" at the New English Review: https://www.newenglishreview.org/articles/jesus-the-movie πŸ“• My latest novel "After That, The Dark" is available here: https://dwplus.shop/AfterThatTheDark πŸ“™ My Edgar nominated non-fiction book "The Kingdom of Cain: Finding God in the Literature of Darkness" is available here: https://dwplus.shop/KingdomofCain πŸ“˜ My memoir "The Great Good Thing" is available here: https://a.co/d/0icnKMrX πŸ“” "The Truth and Beauty: How the Lives and Works of England's Greatest Poets Point the Way to a Deeper Understanding of the Words of Jesus" is available here: https://a.co/d/0bo2G3Tr πŸ“š Save the Klavan by shopping my merch here: https://dwplus.shop/AndrewKlavanMerch - - - Socials: YouTube β€” https://youtube.com/@andrewklavan Facebook β€” https://www.facebook.com/aklavan Instagram β€” https://www.instagram.com/theandrewklavan X β€” https://twitter.com/andrewklavan - - - Privacy Policy: https://www.dailywire.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:03.0

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0:08.9

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0:11.4

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0:13.5

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0:18.1

You mentioned Jane Austen, one of the things that is remarkable about lifting her voice out of the story with making movies is it turns the movie.

0:27.8

And some of those Jane Austen movies are really quite good.

0:30.5

But it turns the movie into this kind of girly thing about hats, bonnets and manners and those cute dresses.

0:38.0

But Jane Austen was kind of a bitch.

1:06.4

Hey, everyone, it's Andrew Claven with this week's interview with Christopher J. Scalia, who has written a book called 13 novels, Conservatives Will Love, but probably haven't read.

1:11.5

He's a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, writes about literature, culture, and higher education,

1:17.1

which is, to me, just a huge deal. Chris, thank you so much for coming on. It's good to see you.

1:22.6

It's great to see you. Thanks a lot for having me on. Appreciate it. You know, I talking to,

1:28.0

when I started out talking to conservatives, trying to talk to them about the culture, I got some of the most blank looks i have ever gotten i used to i used to describe it like trying to explain to my wife

1:33.8

that things on sales still cost money you know and she she would look at me and think like i really

1:39.0

like you but i have no idea what you're talking about and so i when i go on to sell one of my novels on a conservative

1:45.3

talk show, this has happened to me again and again, especially with guys, guy hosts, they say,

1:52.6

why should I read, I should do it in Gorka's voice, Sebastian Gorka would always say,

1:56.3

why should I read novels? They're not true. Yeah. Answer the question. Why should you're

2:02.9

absolutely right. That attitude is prevalent among conservatives and I suspect especially among

2:08.9

conservative men. We tend to think, people of our ilk tend to think that you can only get the

2:15.5

truth from nonfiction, history, self-help, things like that.

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