Why Clean Energy Will Always Win (Eventually...) with Cleantechnica
Everything Electric Podcast
The Fully Charged Show
4.8 • 1.4K Ratings
🗓️ 15 December 2025
⏱️ 67 minutes
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Summary
Is the clean energy revolution happening faster than we think? In this episode of the Everything Electric Podcast, Robert Llewellyn sits down with Scott Cooney, co-founder of CleanTechnica, for a deep dive into the global shift towards a cleaner future.
From his home in Hawaii, Scott shares unique insights on why the US lost its early lead in clean tech to China, and why he remains incredibly optimistic about the future. They discuss the mind-boggling scale of Chinese manufacturing, the "inevitability" of technological solutions like solid-state batteries, and why your next stove might have a battery inside it.
Plus, we look at the incredible "human-centred" design of electric school buses that are solving more than just pollution, and why data centers might not be the energy disaster everyone fears.
00:00 - Intro: Hawaii, Sydney, and the CleanTechnica Connection
02:28 - Why Hawaii is the Perfect Lab for Clean Energy (High Gas Prices)
04:29 - The Shift: How Silicon Valley Started It, but China is Winning It
09:07 - California's Economic Boom: The 5th Largest Economy Run on Renewables
13:19 - The UK's Secret Success: How Offshore Wind Replaced Coal
15:55 - The "No-Brainer" of Solid State Batteries & Tech Evolution
20:00 - Robotaxis & Waymo: Why Autonomous Driving Feels "Inevitable"
28:39 - The "Zoom" Electric School Bus: Solving Pollution & Bullying?
36:04 - Data Centers & AI: Why Solar Will Solve the Energy Demand Crisis
40:40 - The Future of Road Tax: How Do We Pay for Roads Without Gas Tax?
46:02 - The BYD Explosion: From Unknown to 3rd Biggest Automaker
49:50 - Smart Homes: Fridges and Stoves with Batteries?!
55:40 - Electric Ships: Batteries are replacing massive diesel engines
58:30 - The Electric Home Show: Bill McKibben & Earth Day in Hawaii
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| 1:16.1 | Hello and welcome to another episode of the Everything Electric podcast. Coming to you in a rather unique combination. |
| 1:19.3 | I'm quite excited about this. |
| 1:21.0 | I'm currently in Sydney, Australia and my guest today is in Honolulu, Hawaii. |
| 1:26.7 | That's the first time we've ever done that particular combination. |
| 1:32.3 | People who are very involved in the new tech scene and clean energy and electric vehicles and renewables and batteries and all those sort of things, possibly will be aware of a wonderful publication called Clean Technica, |
| 1:48.4 | which has been going slightly longer than the fully charged show and the Everything Electric show. |
| 1:53.9 | But sort of very much coming out of the same ideas. |
| 1:57.5 | And so this is the first time I've actually met Scott Cooney, |
| 2:00.8 | who is one of the founders, the co-founders of Clean Technica, and he lives in Honolulu. |
| 2:06.6 | And it's been a real pleasure getting to know him, having a really lovely chat today. |
| 2:10.6 | I think you'll really enjoy it. It's very interesting. |
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