This week on bold names, we're talking to David Kordani.

He's the chairman and CEO of Cigna, one of the U.S.'s biggest health insurers.

Now joining me to talk to David is another David, my colleague David Wainer, who is a health care columnist for the Wall Street Journal.

Really excited to talk about our fast-changing health system. That's next. for the Wall Street Journal. Really excited to talk about our fast-changing health system.

That's next.

From the Wall Street Journal, I'm Tim Higgins.

This is Bold Names,

where you'll hear from the leaders of the bold-name companies

featured in the Wall Street Journal.

Today we ask a big question.

How do we fix the American health care system? David, thank you for

joining us on bold names. I'm really interested in one of those areas that I know you're

passionate about, which is mental health care. How did this become top of mind for you? So a couple of points. When

you enter the healthcare conversation, the modern view of life is that the physical health and

mental health aspect of a human being are inextricably linked. For all too long, our society

separated those of you have a physical ailment, go see a medical doctor. You have a mental ailment,

go see a mental health professional. But physical health and mental health are inextricably linked.

So guided by our mission, we lean into that pretty meaningfully. And when you step back,

you could look at our society, the U.S. alone, whether we want to talk about the global society,

and recognize that early

onset of mental health challenges, be they anxiety, stress, or early stage depression,

have a significant impact on an individual's health, well-being if they're employed, their

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