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Hey, everybody. Just a little heads up. This episode contains a little bit of cursing.

What's a goal you're glad you gave up on?

Perfection.

My film got absolutely decimated when it premiered in Toronto, which brings up for me

one of my primary triggers or whatever is not being liked or this idea of perfection of not

creating something that is perceived as, right?

I'm Rachel Martin and this is Wildcard, the game where cards control the conversation.

Each week, my guest chooses questions at random.

Pick a card one through three.

Questions about the memories, insights, and beliefs that have shaped their lives.

I had joy.

I experienced joy.

It still gives me joy.

That's it.

That's enough.

There is no perfect.

That is perfect.

And our guest today is someone you may think you have figured out.

You've seen Chris Pine on the big screen for a long time by this point, playing different

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