Summary
Is China key to stopping Russia's war on Ukraine? Author, writer, commentator Gordon Chang thinks so, as he explains in our wide-ranging conversation.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello from the Heartland. My name is Jenna and this is smarter news, news when it matters and why it matters. |
| 0:10.4 | Our Smarter series features unique people who help us think and live smarter. |
| 0:16.6 | Well, today we're back with Gordon Chang. He is an analyst, book author, writer, commentator. He has written for just about everybody from the New York Times to the Wall Street Journal. He has spoken all over the world from Shanghai to London. He has also really had long discussions with high-ranking government officials like those in the State |
| 0:37.6 | Department or the CIA or in Congress. So Gordon has been everywhere, talk to everyone. And one of |
| 0:42.8 | my favorite things about him, because he is one of my favorite guests, I have to say, Gordon, |
| 0:46.6 | I'm just going to confess it from the top. You're one of my favorite guests to talk to about all |
| 0:50.9 | things foreign policy related, but you have a specific expertise in China, which is where we're going to focus today. |
| 0:56.3 | So I say return guests because we actually spoke last year at almost the same time, which just sort of worked out. |
| 1:03.7 | I had reached out to you a couple of weeks ago as we saw the developments in Eastern Europe, but also have seen this role related to China. |
| 1:10.1 | And we've been kind of working out how to how to how to how to position this interview. |
| 1:14.7 | But just to launch right into things, I want to read you something. |
| 1:18.0 | So this is the very first answer to our first question in our first interview for |
| 1:24.3 | smarter news, Gordon, in April of 2021. |
| 1:28.4 | And this is what you said. |
| 1:29.5 | What we're seeing right now, Jenna, is two big aggressors, Russia and China, are threatening |
| 1:34.4 | neighbors. |
| 1:35.5 | You have Russia on pressure in Ukraine. |
| 1:38.2 | They've got more than 85,000 troops that they've just brought to the border of former |
| 1:43.1 | Soviet Republic, now an independent |
| 1:45.3 | state. And they're moving in high performance aircraft. And at the same time, we have China |
| 1:50.7 | going after Taiwan. There are almost daily flights through Taiwan's air defense identification |
| 1:57.6 | zone. That's international airspace, but it is considered to be provocative |
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